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I am reviewing one of my games. I did the move marked in red, however a better move is the one with the green arrow. I felt it leaves the king sort of exposed, so I was wondering what makes this a good move?

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Is it because you protect the knight while attacking white Pawn? but the black pawn is still protected by the bishop if it was still on c8??

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KJH2017 wrote:

Is it because you protect the knight while attacking white Pawn? but the black pawn is still protected by the bishop if it was still on c8??

Oh, that might be it grin.png Thank you grin.png

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I mean its a good bet?

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Even though you don't usually want to move the f-pawn, here I think you can get away with it since white can't really attack you:

 

 

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the knight is defended and white can't really do much there.  I don't think that is it. 
Be6, or Bd7 are both fine; you develop a piece. 
Re1 is ok,  to control that half - open file. 
the f pawn is a computer move: I would not have done it, as you said it seems  like a long term commitment that you may not want to make.  
One way to understand computer analysis is to open the position and look at the score for each move after its had a few seconds to think.   I did that for you and the differences in these moves are microscopic.  Any move that is < 0.5 change in score either direction is pretty solid at normal human chess player levels.  So the other half of the question, is "did that computer move generate a giant score jump".   If your move if 0.2 score change and the computer found one that kicks it 3 points in your favor, you missed a good move big time.   If the computer move is 0.3 to your 0.2 ...   the computer is probably right (depending on its settings, it can mess up these kinds of moves, and letting it run 10 min can change its answer), but it is going to take a very high level player to really make much out of the difference in these kinds of choices.  
Or, in short, look for moves where the computer found a big difference in score, the little ones... look at them, but I don't recommend spending hours trying to figure out the why on such small differences. 

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So what you are saying johnin is that the more time we spend on these games and trying all the moves available is to play, through play you learn and through learn you grow.  

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As others have pointed out, it's not really exposing your king since theres still 2 pawns in front of it. Also white is in no position to attack considering they haven't even fully developed yet.

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All I am saying is that you need to be very, very good (2000ish?) to see the difference between moves with nearly the same engine score.   

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jonnin wrote:

Or, in short, look for moves where the computer found a big difference in score, the little ones... look at them, but I don't recommend spending hours trying to figure out the why on such small differences. 

 

This is pretty good advice.

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That's true, thank you grin.png
BishopTakesH7 wrote:

Even though you don't usually want to move the f-pawn, here I think you can get away with it since white can't really attack you:

 

 

 

 

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jonnin wrote:

the knight is defended and white can't really do much there.  I don't think that is it. 
Be6, or Bd7 are both fine; you develop a piece. 
Re1 is ok,  to control that half - open file. 
the f pawn is a computer move: I would not have done it, as you said it seems  like a long term commitment that you may not want to make.  
One way to understand computer analysis is to open the position and look at the score for each move after its had a few seconds to think.   I did that for you and the differences in these moves are microscopic.  Any move that is < 0.5 change in score either direction is pretty solid at normal human chess player levels.  So the other half of the question, is "did that computer move generate a giant score jump".   If your move if 0.2 score change and the computer found one that kicks it 3 points in your favor, you missed a good move big time.   If the computer move is 0.3 to your 0.2 ...   the computer is probably right (depending on its settings, it can mess up these kinds of moves, and letting it run 10 min can change its answer), but it is going to take a very high level player to really make much out of the difference in these kinds of choices.  
Or, in short, look for moves where the computer found a big difference in score, the little ones... look at them, but I don't recommend spending hours trying to figure out the why on such small differences. 

I see! I haven't really thought about the difference in points just what the computer pointed out as the "best move". I'll consider that, thank you grin.png

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it is not   good  to leave your king open lol

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Nataliee522 wrote:

 

Hi

I am reviewing one of my games. I did the move marked in red, however a better move is the one with the green arrow. I felt it leaves the king sort of exposed, so I was wondering what makes this a good move?

Thank you

It attacks white's only center pawn. 

it looks uncomfortable yes, but if you think about it - how does white take advantage of the weak king? Qd5+? You can simply move your king to h8 and it's quite safe.

In fact white would also like to play f4 himself (after h3, of course)

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it makes it a good move cause you open up space for rook to go bang on other king 💕