Notation in computer analysis

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handjive

Can anybody explain to me the scoring you get in computer analysis after games? Each move gets scored things like (-0.15), (1.17) etc. But what does it mean. A mistake gets (1.50) but you would think it would be negative?

Don't understand what it is all about. Please explain.

ninevah

When the score is negative means that Black is better. Some examples:

5.00 is huge advantage for white.

2.00 is a strong advantage for white.

0.15 is minor advantage for white.

0.00 is a dead equal position.

-0.5 is a decent advantage for black.

-3.00 is a very strong advantage for black.

-10.00 is an advantage equivalent to a queen more.

handjive

Brilliant - thanks very much. Obvious when you understand. I'll get much more ouit of it now. Thanks again.

diagonal

Is the advantage considered materially or positionally? For example, one side has a forced mate in 3 maneuvers, or one side is up knight (3-points)?  

ninevah
diagonal wrote:

Is the advantage considered materially or positionally? For example, one side has a forced mate in 3 maneuvers, or one side is up knight (3-points)?  


For the computer, material advantage is easier to evaluate but there is some kind of a way to evaluate positional advantage too. If there's a forced mate in 3 or one side is a knight up, the computer should have no problems evaluating the position. But if one side is a knight down but has significant attacking chances, this could be more problematic.

zxb995511
ninevah wrote:
diagonal wrote:

Is the advantage considered materially or positionally? For example, one side has a forced mate in 3 maneuvers, or one side is up knight (3-points)?  


For the computer, material advantage is easier to evaluate but there is some kind of a way to evaluate positional advantage too. If there's a forced mate in 3 or one side is a knight up, the computer should have no problems evaluating the position. But if one side is a knight down but has significant attacking chances, this could be more problematic.


I found a position (or opening) that will fool even Fritz 12. And I have a decent computer mind you-(2GB or RAM on a 2.16 Procesor). I was looking into the Englund gambit the other day and something interesting occured. I saw a "good" line for black and I had the computer do an infinite analisis to evaluate the position. Fritz wasen't too impressed it was giving it +2.30 after almost 30 min of calculation- which should mean "BLACK IS DEAD LOST". So I wanted to see what winning line Fritz was seeing so I played the defence on the black side, and something very curious happed. Every move I made (common sense defence moves) Fritz began to doubt it's own evaluation (I wasen't just forcing it to move I was giving it at least 5 min per move here on ifinate analisis). After taking back a few moves (cuz I blundered) and finding some interesting lines Fritz could not make his "advantage" materialize even after 20 moves. At one point in fact I gave the resulting position an "HIGHLY unclear" evaluation, and Fritz had changed his mind about the Englund being useless. It was now +1.03 and in human terms it was completely playable. If you guys are interested I could post the line so your PCs can have a swing at it.