to teck for me play and enjolly playing leave to the masters
Okay, I blundered but what's the best move, dammit?
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May 17, 2017
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#3
You are up a piece for a passed H pawn and your king is fairly exposed. After Rf8 your plan should be to secure your king and reorganize your pieces so that you can repel white's pieces and look to win the H pawn if possible. White has to prove compensation, not you.
May 17, 2017
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#4
Candidate35 wrote:
You are up a piece for a passed H pawn and your king is fairly exposed. After Rf8 your plan should be to secure your king and reorganize your pieces so that you can repel white's pieces and look to win the H pawn if possible. White has to prove compensation, not you.
Makes sense. Rf8 followed by Bf5, try to trade off the light-square bishops, relieve the king of his protection duties so he can move close to the pawn wall on the queenside maybe. I don't have to tell you these options were nowhere near my cranium during the game. Jeebus...
Re7 is better
Gtagtmeier, you have a 619 rating, I don't think you should be giving him advice. So let's play Re7. What next?
May 17, 2017
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#7
...Rf8 is better actually. It takes an open file and attacks a pawn. After ...Re7 white plays Bd6, and it isn't simple to get back to the open file.
May 17, 2017
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#8
If you ask what next? Well, if white answers ...Rf8 with something like f3-f4, then we can go Bf5. We do want to exchange pieces, of course.
Up a piece, this endgame should win with great ease. The more pieces come off the board, the easier it will be.
May 17, 2017
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#9
solskytz wrote:
If you ask what next? Well, if white answers ...Rf8 with something like f3-f4, then we can go Bf5. We do want to exchange pieces, of course.
Up a piece, this endgame should win with great ease. The more pieces come off the board, the easier it will be.
Well. Now I don't feel bad about blundering at all. (sobs). And seriously, thanks for the analysis.
May 17, 2017
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#10
I now notice that the OP is a pretty strong player - come on... you should win such positions on general principles only.
Forget the "out of zip code" rating of the opponent. This is just a chess position. A 2600 rating shouldn't save him when he's simply down a piece for nothing. I think that you just lost your cool.
Happens to all of us... who knows? Maybe next time you get this type of position against someone 2600 and up you'll be less "hypnotized", and gradually start losing your fear of the higher-rated player.
I'm sure that he didn't get his 2600 rating (or whatever it is) through playing such position as white has here...
The rating applies to the opening position. Not to the one on the board... :-)
In other words - if he had to start all of his games from the position at hand, I doubt it if he could be rated higher than 1800 in the very best of cases, no matter his actual skill in chess...
May 17, 2017
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#12
john272 wrote:
to teck for me play and enjolly playing leave to the masters
And leave the writing to the educated.
Ya you need to trade those bishops of possible. He wouldn't allow it. But from that position Bd5 looks so deadly with the bishop pair. Rf8 then maybe Bf5? But Rg1 for white is intense with discovered checks. Maybe start with Bf7? What's black respond with?
Bd6* ^. Not d5 lol
May 17, 2017
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#16
solskytz wrote:
To the literate, you meant.
Being educated includes being literate. So either word is correct. However I do admit that literate is more exact and therefore preferable.
May 17, 2017
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#17
Maybe even 1...Bf7 immediately... I'm not sure I like 1...Rf8 2. Rg1! and we have no time for 2...Bf5...
Now 2...Kh8 3. Be5+! Nf6 and 4. h7- it looks like white gets what he wants - to pose the greatest amount of problems and tie up the black forces...
So no - I go for 1...Bf7. For example 2. Rg1 Bxg6 3. Rxg6+ Kf8 4. Rg7 and now we have ...Re7 - where the white initiative is finally repelled.
comment #7 ...Rf8 is better actually. It takes an open file and attacks a pawn. After ...Re7 white plays Bd6, and it isn't simple to get back to the open file.
Rf8 is better but if Re7 and white plays Bd6 black takes it with the Knight.
May 17, 2017
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#20
At first glance, I agree with Candidate35. Perhaps try to exchange white Bishops. You may then be able to pickoff some pawns and/or exchange rooks. Then get your King to centre of board for the end game.
I like to use a chess engine for some of my post game analysis and even engine v engine in particular positions just to see.
Played a guy who was out of my zip code ratings wise. Held my own as black before I moved Nc8-e7. Blunder city, Bishop takes Rook, and that was it. So i should've moved Rf1 but beyond that, what should be my plan here? It's one thing to get the rook to relative safety but what should be my plan? According to the engine, I was better here but I don't see it. Any and all feedback appreciated.