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I've had a couple of games of what I can only describe as the most boring form of chess imaginable. When your opponent simply pushs pawns to form a web. I'm wondering how to destroy this type of play. I can't imagine a more boring game. 

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You look at where you can play for pawn breaks.  6.  ... d5 simply gives a pawn away for no reason.  Playing for d5, by playing e6 first, would be a reasonable response to white's structure and time wasting (h3 and a3).  5...e6 followed by 6. nc3 d5 would likely produce a reasonable position - white cant hold the pawn for long.  Being able to play d5 in response to this structure is unusual, made possible by white wasting so much time.  Normally, white would use the time to play g3 and bg2, and d5 wouldnt be playable by black.  Instead, you would play for B5, or alternatively e5 and f5, or e6 and f5, often with kingside fianchetto.     

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Ive tried the kings opening like you did, but i seem to get burn with the horse. queens qambit, no matter how intense there start, you can seem to get the play in one direction. i take the oponents kingside horse with bishop when they move it out. i watched magnus play gambit and he does it. its worked a bunch. i should never be giving chess advise. i would say watch magnus

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Web of pawns?

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fiveofswords: Quite profound. Like a hiaku, only meaningless  

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As with other strategies that ignore development, the punishment is basically this:

1) develop your pieces
2) open some lines (a pawn break)

That's it.

Your opponent's web idea is very poor, but your moves 5 and 6 more than make up for it (lose time, then lose a pawn).

Here's a rough idea:



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mufreakcs wrote:

Ive tried the kings opening like you did, but i seem to get burn with the horse. queens qambit, no matter how intense there start, you can seem to get the play in one direction. i take the oponents kingside horse with bishop when they move it out. i watched magnus play gambit and he does it. its worked a bunch. i should never be giving chess advise. i would say watch magnus

 

Thanks. I've actually been trying the king's gambit just to get a sense for it, but that of course requires the corresponding play of the opponent. I, too, like the queen's gambit. I agree that you get a more controlled opening. The other thing I notice with people playing at my level is that they always bring their queen out early. It's annoying, in part because I'm not quite skilled enough to punish them (at least consistently), and partially because I want to play a more tactical game, not involving constant tricks. 

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spadehigh wrote:

fiveofswords: Quite profound. Like a hiaku, only meaningless  

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Doubling down on profound. With a side of helpful.

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Leigh18: Thanks, that's very helpful. 

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So I wrote the fox story because I was upset that I came to see a Web of Pawns and I did not see any Web of Pawns. However, Their was a good side The good side is that I prevoiusly had played a game with a Web of Pawns.

The name of this game is called "Horde"

For Black to win they have to checkmate white king

For White to win they have to get rid of all the black pawns.

 

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Yeah, I played that variant a number of times a long time ago on a site called itsyourmove.

IIRC white had a big advantage after opening with rook pawn moves.

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the better players seem to bring the queen out last. yea i get burned with the early queen too. lately ive been just hasaeling the queen to trap it with lesser pieces while i develop at same time.