I did not say there is nothing else - I was pointing out that the biggest difference between a 500, 1000, and 1500 is their tactical ability.
The skill difference between them is literally 1 thing: tactics.
Ehmm...
Trying to teach them why an outpost is important, or when a knight is better than a bishop, or why getting rooks on the 7th is important is all useless when they are dropping pieces.
I have already explained multiple times why it IS important despite them dropping pieces left, right and centre. You have not addressed this explanation yet. As a demonstrative example, if you know that rooks on the 7th are dangerous, you'll be more likely to not blunder the Blind Swine mate.
You are trying to be coy, but no, you are not struggling to understand. https://lichess.org/@/Maxkho
Lol, I was genuinely struggling to understand. It was impossible to tell from your comment if you were implying that I'm cheating or manipulating rating. Anyway, my original Lichess account got banned because of this extension. I used to use it to "bookmark" interesting positions by opening them in another tab, but Lichess's auto-cheat detection interpreted that as cheating. I explained that to Lichess, but they literally said "we can't prove that you AREN'T a cheater, and we trust our system, so we'll ban you". I can provide a screenshot if you want.
Anytime you have an adult who has spent months struggling at the 500-level, disappears for a couple months and suddenly is playing better than IMs, it raises eyebrows.
Literally none of what you said applies to me lol.
...has spent months struggling at the 500-level
I only spent a week improving from learning the rules to 500, then a week after that I was already ~700 (my rating didn't hadn't caught up by that point yet, but I was winning ~70% of the games), and a week after that my Rapid rating stabilised just under 900. The following week, I switched to my current account (maxkho2) and reached 1200 exactly one month after I played my first rated game. I was a quick improver from the very beginning.
...disappears for a couple months
I never disappeared anywhere. I played relatively regularly ever since I played my first rated game.
suddenly is playing better than IMs
I "beat" (mouse-slipped in the end and it was a draw) my first IM in March 2021 ─ that's over a year after I first started playing, not "a couple of months".
And I have official OTB ratings (both national and FIDE), too. Or do I cheat OTB as well?
Real games are not practice, they are the test... Playing is important, but if that is all you do, your progress will stall
Again, you are telling this to somebody who only played and analysed and did not stall. Real games are both the practice and the test ─ ask AlphaZero. But okay, as you rightly point out, that's not even relevant to the topic of contention.
And if you are recommending your students not bother with practicing tactics beyond ~1000, I hope you are not charging them for that - you would owe them money for it!
I obviously recommend them a combination of both depending on their own strengths and weaknesses. I'm just telling you that my experience has shown me that most intermediate players' weaknesses are mostly not purely tactical.
You may want to actually read some of Dvoretsky's work before trying to make such claim
"Some claim that chess is 95% tactics, while others hold that the basis of chess is positional play. We should not take such statements seriously; they are worthless and only disorient people because each one reflects only a single facet of the problem. In fact, when we think over a dilemma, be it the one I have just mentioned or another one - for example, should we work to develop strong qualities of a player or to liquidate his weaknesses? - any unambiguous answer like 'we do either this or that' will be a wrong one. The truth lies in skillful combination of the opposite approaches, in search for an optimal proportion between them. And this proportion is individual for every particular case" - Dvoretsky 2003
So there is nothing that separates a 1500 from a 1000 other than tactics? Again, I already proposed an experiment which would definitely either corroborate or definitively disprove this claim. You have conveniently ignored it, but that won't stop it from existing. I'm having a hard time believing that even you yourself believe that there is nothing that a 1500 is better than a 1000 at than tactics. It's a completely idiotic statement that not even the most hard-core tactics proponents would agree with.
I did not say there is nothing else - I was pointing out that the biggest difference between a 500, 1000, and 1500 is their tactical ability. That will be their biggest weakness. Trying to teach them why an outpost is important, or when a knight is better than a bishop, or why getting rooks on the 7th is important is all useless when they are dropping pieces. I wish I could find the Silman quote to that effect, but I'm not going to dig through the Heisman articles to find it.
I'm genuinely curious. What do you think is happening with those 2 accounts? Do you think I'm cheating or pitting them against each other to farm rating? I'm no genius, but I'm struggling to pick up on your implication.
You are trying to be coy, but no, you are not struggling to understand. https://lichess.org/@/Maxkho
Anytime you have an adult who has spent months struggling at the 500-level, disappears for a couple months and suddenly is playing better than IMs, it raises eyebrows. Young kids do not even improve that fast.
Yeah, it's important to learn the patterns ─ personally, I have done that either directly from seeing them in my games or through post-game analysis with the engine ─ but that doesn't take long at all. The rest is down to practice ─ real games are FAR better practice than puzzles (for reasons that I can't be bothered to explain, but which most people already know). Either way, all of this is irrelevant as I've clearly stated I don't think tactics are the predominant component of chess ability past, like, 1000.
Real games are not practice, they are the test. You do not get better at basketball by going out and playing nothing but real games all the time. You have drippling drills, you have shooting drills, you have passing drills, etc. Playing is important, but if that is all you do, your progress will stall. Likewise, if all you do is practice, your playing performance will suffer. No one in this discussion has made a claim about not playing - the discussion was about how to spend their study time.
And if you are recommending your students not bother with practicing tactics beyond ~1000, I hope you are not charging them for that - you would owe them money for it!
Yeah, these are very specific patterns that are far less essential to know than general concepts such as what constitutes king safety, how and when to attack, etc.
You cannot understand the abstract if you fail to know the concrete. Presumably, you are studying math in college. You should understand that.
I think we're beginning to go in circles. You know what, let's just agree to disagree. According to Mark Dvoretsky, we are both wrong. So let's just go about it our own way and each just do what works for us.
You may want to actually read some of Dvoretsky's work before trying to make such claim. I would suggest starting with the series he did with Artur Yusupov called "Secrets of Chess Training". There are 5 volumes - it will be enlightening for you.