Have you ever played a '!!' move?

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ponz111

Often the designation !! is misleading.

Suppose you find a 8 move combination but the 4th move is where you make a seemingly !! move as it is a good move in itself.  But really, since the 8 move combination--the !! should go at the very first move.

Because that is the point where the forced combination/tactic really begins...

condude2

It actually looks like I'm winning in any variation.

madhacker

I think I can win this thread. Move 25 in this game

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/best-move-ive-ever-played

GarethLeeMeredith
DonJose22 wrote:

GarethLeeMeredith wrote:

I can think of maybe two games of mine that deserved perhaps '!' here is my first one... a double rook sac for mate


This position is very common mating pattern...In fact, it may be an exact copy of one that Chess.com has in its database of combinations.


 



I doubt there is an exact copy on any database but correct me if I wrong.

rootbeer7up

To me a !! move is a very strong move that looks impossible. A very strong move that anyone can understand is just an !

ponz111

Then there are many !! moves.

Scratchifier

I haven't.

 

I've certainly played a bunch of ??????? moves in bullet chess though. xD

Time4Tea
EdAidi wrote:

i dont think g5 was a !! move becasue i think anyone would do that at your rating

Neither do I (that's why I gave it a single !) Smile I was just posting it as one of my best.

Time4Tea

@condude2: the Rb1 is a great one - definitely gets a '!!' from me! Really nice idea!

Time4Tea
findingnemo7 wrote:
Time4Tea wrote:
findingnemo7 wrote:

I think all '!!' moves really depends on the context and rating of both players :)

Yes, I think I'd agree that to some extent it's relative to the situation and maybe the time control should come into it too.  Personally, I'd say that an '!!' should have something special about it - something that goes beyond just a 'good' move and shows deeper insight than you might expect from a player of that level.

So, findingnemo7, what's your best move ever?  

I actually don't know, I've never really considered any of my moves to be amazing. If I'm capable of finding it in my mind it's not worth a '!!' mark - just because it is within my level. Anyways, here was a game I was okay with.

 

That's a great combination - thanks for sharing!  I can see that you had to try to create some play against Black's King, given that you were a pawn down and facing a dangerous passed pawn on the Queenside. Must have been a very satisfying win Smile

condude2
LuftWaffles wrote:
Time4Tea wrote:

@condude2: the Rb1 is a great one - definitely gets a '!!' from me! Really nice idea!

Don't you think a move should change the outcome of a game to be awarded "!!"? Look at the position before Qb7. Almost any move wins. White is up a piece, a mate threat and a couple of snide remarks about castling.

Firstly, there's no need to get upset. There was nothing snide about my comments, they were serious. I think and !! doesn't need to change the game, but simply be a move that seems impossible, is nice aesthetically, and ends a game shortly or reverses the momentum.

zeitnotakrobat

@ Rumo75: Your king move to e2 might have been inspired by the famous game Kamsky-Karpov Dortmund 1993. Ok, Karpov only won a pawn, but the motif is the same.

condude2
LuftWaffles wrote:

 

I stand by my previous statement. I think a double exclam move should change the expected result of a game, or at the very least pose much greater problems for the opponent than any other move available.

You see, I disagree. Your system of exclamation points rewards poor play early in a game. The tactic I played there ended the game within a few moves, at worst ending in a R+B vs. R ending, which is a trivial win. The ke ypoint with double exclamation marks is that they are ideas which you normally wouldn't give a second thought.

Rumo75
zeitnotakrobat hat geschrieben:

@ Rumo75: Your king move to e2 might have been inspired by the famous game Kamsky-Karpov Dortmund 1993. Ok, Karpov only won a pawn, but the motif is the same.

Interesting, I didn't know the game. You are right, it's the same motif, and in Karpov's hands one extra pawn is as good as in my hands an extra piece. Wink

Rumo75

White to move. Some days ago in a tournament game I missed a very nice solution to the following position. That the computer finds a way to hang on to a +/- advantage for white should not be of too much relevance, as this line is practically impossible to find for a human.

chesster3145
ponz111
LuftWaffles wrote:
Rumo75 wrote:

White to move. Some days ago in a tournament game I missed a very nice solution to the following position. That the computer finds a way to hang on to a +/- advantage for white should not be of too much relevance, as this line is practically impossible to find for a human.

 

I think probably it's possible to zugzwang black since his pieces are a bit tied down. Queen can't move without allowing Nxh6, knight moves lose the g7 pawn.

 

Or, with that in mind, since the king can't support the queen maybe we win d5 with Qd4 and then prepare the pawn move e4. I think it's clear white has an advantage.

Very nice thinking. Another possibility is a4 with the idea of later attacking the queenside pawns.

Agree, it is clear White has the advantage.

Rumo75
LuftWaffles hat geschrieben:
Rumo75 wrote:

White to move. Some days ago in a tournament game I missed a very nice solution to the following position. That the computer finds a way to hang on to a +/- advantage for white should not be of too much relevance, as this line is practically impossible to find for a human.

 

I think probably it's possible to zugzwang black since his pieces are a bit tied down. Queen can't move without allowing Nxh6, knight moves lose the g7 pawn.

 

Or, with that in mind, since the king can't support the queen maybe we win d5 with Qd4 and then prepare the pawn move e4. I think it's clear white has an advantage.

Absolutely correct. The only chance to hang on for black is the inhuman line 1.d4 Kg8 2.e4 Qd7 3.Nxh6+ Kh7 4.e5 Kxh6 5.exf6 g5. I didn't see that possibility and went for ponz's suggestion, which in the end turned out to be still good enough for a win. Smile

Rumo75

Here is how the game finished:



The_Ghostess_Lola

21. g5....ahhh yes FM Rumo75....Smile....