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Mike_Kalish

As we got near the end of this game,  he could not move his king, and consequently, if I take his rook, the game is a stalemate. I wondered how this would play out....him trying to make me take the rook and me resisting. Weird. However, he evidently didn't see it and allowed the checkmate. (It's black's move here.)

Lord_leeven

Haha

Mike_Kalish

Of course, he needed to be sure I took the rook with my king or pawn and not with my rook or knight. Either of those would unlock his king.

evgeniy-nikolaev1989

Тут на любой ход - Черным МАТ ладьей из-под пешки

Mike_Kalish

So I also discovered the "mad rook" concept. I'd say that puts me in good company!

Mike_Kalish
MARattigan wrote:

Wouldn't work.

If he doesn't check White can simply play Rf3 (or RxR if available).

If he does check White can play Ke3 then move the knight (possibly blocking check or capturing).

If he doesn't check, Rg4++. If he does check, blocking with my knight was plan B. Plan A was to pray he didn't see the possible stalemate. 

MARattigan

Wouldn't work.

If he doesn't check White can simply play Rf3 (or RxR if available).

If he does check White can play Ke3 then move the knight (possibly blocking check or capturing).

If 1...Rd4+ 2.Ke3 Rxe4+ then 3.Kf2 (missed that out in the version you quote).

As you so rightly point out - if he doesn't check he's mated. (Missed that too.)

Mike_Kalish
MelvinGarvey wrote:
Mike_Kalish a écrit :

So I also discovered the "mad rook" concept. I'd say that puts me in good company!

You mean, that puts ME in good company! (no me, no me...)

OK, you win. I agree....it puts YOU in good company. tongue

Mike_Kalish
MelvinGarvey wrote:

No, YOU!!

I saw that one coming.....and you didn't disappoint. wink

ChessDude009

However, the knight could easily block one of the rook checks, making this position a win for white.

Mike_Kalish
ChessDude009 wrote:

However, the knight could easily block one of the rook checks, making this position a win for white.

Yes....that was my fallback plan if he went for the stalemate. But he didn't, and he gave me the opportunity for the Rg4 checkmate two moves later. 

asto0237
Mike_Kalish wrote:

As we got near the end of this game, he could not move his king, and consequently, if I take his rook, the game is a stalemate. I wondered how this would play out....him trying to make me take the rook and me resisting. Weird. However, he evidently didn't see it and allowed the checkmate. (It's black's move here.)

Black is doomed. White is up material

asto0237

That was a mad queen 

asto0237

That was so mad 

jetoba
Mike_Kalish wrote:
ChessDude009 wrote:

However, the knight could easily block one of the rook checks, making this position a win for white.

Yes....that was my fallback plan if he went for the stalemate. But he didn't, and he gave me the opportunity for the Rg4 checkmate two moves later. 

Yes

1 ... Rd4+ 2 Nd3 (the king has an escape square)

1 ... Rb2+ 2 Ke3 and 2 ... Rb3+ 3 Nd3 or 2 ... Re2+ 3 Nxe2