Quite sad how pathetic the average “London” player is

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Sometimes I like to play this garbage against d4. It amazes me how many pathetic London zombies still play the same moves.... Desperately trying to get a position that might slightly resemble the one that they watched that 15 minute YouTube video on.

Grow up and learn a proper opening please. Perhaps try reading a book. Study and play proper chess.

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h3.... now we need to build the triangle, e3, c3. That’s it, good little sheep,  just like the gingergm told you to do

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Because they are being duped. It's GMs that are promoting this nonsense to sell dvds.

 

Pretty much every good coach will not tell their students to learn systems. To try and sell dvds to beginners promising them an easy opening is immoral.

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Leave the London alone, one would think since you have faced it many times you should know how to handle it,

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TakeThisPawn wrote:

h3.... now we need to build the triangle, e3, c3. That’s it, good little sheep,  just like the gingergm told you to do

First the complaining about an ungrateful YouTuber, and now this. You seem like a really fun guy to be around.

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A bunny dies everytime you play the London

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Oh please.🙄

You have to ask yourself what level your opponents and yourself are playing the London system on?

It's the most prefered system during the currently ongoing Grand Tour and even Carlsen himself mauled multiple GMs with it.

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that is so sad pika , i hope more bunnies survive now youve warned us 

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Hey I live in London

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nm

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Chess =/= openings, although many players seem to think that studying openings will make them a better chess player. 

 

Whether you want a simple opening with little theory or something with tonnes of it and even more complications - that's up to you and up to your style, but if you don't know what to do with it in the middlegame or what your game plan will be for the endgame, having every variation of the Sicilian defense memorized won't help you.

 

I say this as someone who primarily plays the Torre for white and openings like the Scandinavian for black - I like simple openings, what can I say?

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snesz wrote:

Chess =/= openings, although many players seem to think that studying openings will make them a better chess player. 

I think you are wrong here.

Thoroughly studying and ultimately mastering an opening is instrumental in a player's level of skill.

Knowing the best moves in multiple variations is invaluable from both a tactical and developmental  perspective.

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Hey um just so you know the London system is an amazing opening I use it all the time and I have beaten a 1900 with it before and I am just a 1400 and a 10 year old
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Agree #banthelondonsystem

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The London is my favorite opening to play against, because I get an advantage 8/10 times.

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Colby-Covington wrote:

snesz wrote:

Chess =/= openings, although many players seem to think that studying openings will make them a better chess player. 

I think you are wrong here.

Thoroughly studying and ultimately mastering an opening is instrumental in a player's level of skill.

Knowing the best moves in multiple variations is invaluable from both a tactical and developmental  perspective.

I disagree, though only slightly. The opening phase is not AS important as the middle/endgame, but is still important nonetheless.

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It's the most important, in my opinion.

Every move and every position, especially with regards to the middle game, is solely determined by what opening was chosen and how well versed you are in it, meaning how many moves you have memorized as the best possible options in a given position.

Especially in OTB matches I started noticing my biggest leaps in development once I had actually sat down and almost religiously studied the most prominent openings and line variations.

It's like a solid foundation which reinforces anything you build on top of it tenfold.

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JustARandomPatzer wrote:

 

Colby-Covington wrote:

 

snesz wrote:

Chess =/= openings, although many players seem to think that studying openings will make them a better chess player. 

I think you are wrong here.

Thoroughly studying and ultimately mastering an opening is instrumental in a player's level of skill.

Knowing the best moves in multiple variations is invaluable from both a tactical and developmental  perspective.

 

I disagree, though only slightly. The opening phase is not AS important as the middle/endgame, but is still important nonetheless.

 

I agree, although the opening is very crucial in playing a constructive and good game, middle games and endgames are a little bit more important for those below 2700, which is 99.9% of chess players.

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wow what a pathetic london sheep =P

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GingerGM's treatment of the London has directly given me several wins against stronger opponents.

In your game, white messed up by not knowing how to handle 1... c5. Personally, I love the white side of 1. d4 c5 2. d5. I feel the Benoni structure is particularly favorable for white when white's c-pawn is still on c2. happy.png