amplebae wrote:
i gather noones read"The irish invented chess" think you all need to read and get the facts right .
That would have been Herman's Hermits.
the oldest chess game recorded
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Mar 10, 2017
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#65
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I think the idea of chess is surely old.Where there are kingdoms that will give the idea of chess.It is only a matter of recorded history and interesting to know the older.
This is really good. thanks.
Came across that game some time ago and it's fascinating. The oldest one from Europe is from 1475 played in Spain. It would be great if they discover more of these older games.
Strange but interesting moves
Jun 15, 2018
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#73
Wow that game was a wild ride I didn't know what to expect next lol!
I believe this to be the oldest computer chess game recorded. It is from issue 3/1956 of Tidskrift för Schack.
S is knight, L is bishop, K is king, D is queen, T is rook.
"The Electronic Brain - The Human"
1 e4 e5 2 Sc3 Sf6 3 d4 Lb4 4 Sf3 d6 5 Ld2 Sc6 6 d5 Sd4 7 h4 Lg4
8 a4 Sxf3+ 9 gxf Lh5 10 Lb5+ c6 11 dxc 0-0 12 cxb Tb8 13 La6 Da5
14 De2 Sd7 15 Tg1 Sc5 16 Tg5 Lg6 17 Lb5 Sxb7 18 0-0-0 Sc5
19 Lc6 Tfc8 20 Ld5 Lxc3 21 Lxa3 [sic] Dxa4 22 Kd2 Se6 23 Tg4 Sd4
24 Dd3 Sb5 25 Lb3 Da6 26 Lc4 Lh5 27 Tg3 Da4 28 Lxb5 Dxb5
29 Dxd6?? Tcd8
The game was judged lost for white here.
Jun 16, 2018
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@kennet_eriksson
The game from the 1956 issue of "Tidskrift för Schack" was indeed the first computer game, but it was played somewhat earlier.
Between 1948-1950 Alan Turing [famous for his code-breaking work at Bletchley Park during WWII and for creating a sort of prototype computer, called a "bombe," an electro-mechanical machine which could check through combinations of letters far quicker than a human being could.] along with a colleague, David Champernowne, wrote the first computer chess program. The odd part is - there were no computers yet invented.
So, Turing wrote the instructions - the program- for his theoretical computer and did the math just as the computer would if it existed, acting for all practical purposes as the CPU. He spent about a half hour computing each move. Turing's program was named TurboChamp and it lost it's only published game - against a colleague of his, Alick Glennie, who wrote the first computer compiler, a high level language called Autocode. The first game was played in 1952.
Turing took into account such things as piece mobility, piece safety, King mobility, King safety, castling, pawn advance, pawn defense, captures, checks and mate threats, each with its own formula and numerical value.
Turing never finished his chess program. His career effectually ended in 1952 when he was outed as being gay (a crime at the time, for which he was convicted and punished after a highly publicized trial). He died from eating a cyanide-laced apple in 1954, whether accidentally or by his own hand (most likely) has been debated over the years.
Interesting.
TfS writes that the game was played on the Soviet computer BESM. The programmer or the player wasn't named.
I cannot determine which is correct.
Could you please tell where you got your information from?
Jun 16, 2018
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#77
kennet_eriksson wrote:
Interesting.
TfS writes that the game was played on the Soviet computer BESM. The programmer or the player wasn't named.
I cannot determine which is correct.
Could you please tell where you got your information from?
This isn't even debatable. A simple google search for Turing +Chess will bring up a thousand examples, some authoritative, some not. You can find Turing's published papers if you search.
Here is a comprehensive page on TurboChamp:
https://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Turochamp
As i have no life I did look at the link.
I also found what looks like the paper Turing wrote
for "Faster than Thought".
It is on:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0xb4crOvCgTNmEtRXFBQUIxQWs/edit
When I looked at the game listing in that paper the ending was
different from what everybody seems to think as the Turing Paper Game.
Here is that game.
Nobody seems to have looked at what Turing really wrote.
The game listed in TfS and the Paper Game are identical to blacks
20th move.
I have no idea of why the game in TfS is so similar.
Jun 16, 2018
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#79
@ kennet_eriksson
That's very interesting. The last series of moves in the game shown in the notes indeed differs from those given on chessgames.com, the chess-programming site and even "Tidskrift för Schack."
The move 21.bxc3 looks a lot weaker than 21. Bxc3, though, maybe even losing.
But the game given in the "Tidskrift för Schack" is undoubtedly misascribed to a Soviet computer.
Thanks.
I thought Abner Doubleday invented chess?
No,Abner Doubleday invented baseball and also has a patent on the cable car in San Francisco.
Doubleday was thought to have invented baseball until it was discovered it's of English origin - and I don't mean cricket.
That would have been Buddy Holly.