A little gripe about language

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"Codling, snakelet, iciclist! My diaper has more life to it! Who drowned you in drears, man, or are you pillale with ink? Did a weep get past the gates of your pride? My tread on the clover, sweetness? Yes, the buttercups told me",... James Joyce, 'finnegans wake'

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"Highlight, Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V" - Suman3, Chess.com

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And there it rests... RIP!

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Nothing good ever comes of a James Joyce invocation.

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my oldest skill after breathing is probably answering the call of nature.

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yes i like to put out bread to the birds when they call for their nosh in the morning :)

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0110001101101000 wrote:

Instruct your child or children to put his, her, or their coat or coats, if extant, into his, her, or their locker or lockers, if extant. If there is no coat, then discard this message. If there is a coat, but no locker, see addendum b-17.2. If one child has multiple coats, or multiple children share a single coat, see addendum k-81. If you have no child, discard this message and move on to the next.

It's more like writing a computer program hah. Have to cover all your bases.

The didactic example as given above competently demonstrates the proper and correct use of grammar in the English language.

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UseWithCare wrote:
bunicula wrote:

my oldest skill after breathing is probably answering the call of nature.

It's not a skill, it's a process and a reflex. It may become a skill when you prove you're more efficient or expertly at breathing than a friend of yours, though. :)

it's hopeless.  my friend.

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UseWithCare wrote:

Looks like the man has not breathed since the date when the picture was taken. 

 

Affirmative

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Ziryab wrote:

Maybe I'm too much of a curmudgeon disabled by my mother's strict insistence that I learn to speak well.

 

I just watched a video that had exceptional content in what the master said, but that I found almost impossible to watch because of how he said it. There were two problems in the how:

 

1) pronouns

2) filler words

 

1) pronouns

Once, the master said "he or she", but through the rest of the video vacillated between "they" for any future opponent the viewer might face, and "he" for White in the game. White was a woman, indeed the Women's World Champion.

2) filler words

"Okay" at the end of many sentences and many similar expressions.

 

As I said, maybe I'm too much of curmudgeon. I wanted to take the young master, sit him down, and make him speak his own native language with some fluency. Alternately, I wanted to compel him to attend weekly meetings of Toastmasters until he never utters filler works again.

I know that I've lost the war concerning pronoun usage, at least regarding the plural for the singular. The master's use of "he" for a she, on the other hand, makes him a relic of the curmudgeons whom I battled when I was young, such as my English 301 (advanced composition) professor who called "he or she" an example of "trendy bovine waste". He did not say "bovine waste".

As someone with a teaching, community activist and political office background where a lot of public speaking is involved, poor speaking skills bug me as well.

For example, when Caroline Kennedy was named Ambassador to Japan, I saw here on a TV interview, where the filler words flowed rapidly:  uh, ok, for sure, etc. - she sounded almost like a Valley Girl.  I've suffered through similar off-the-cuff remarks from politicians who usually read from prepared scripts when on TV.

It IS distracting when a chess speaker cannot efficiently get his/her thoughts across, but it is valuable information, so I've learned to put up with it.

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I know that I've lost the war concerning pronoun usage, at least regarding the plural for the singular. The master's use of "he" for a she, on the other hand, makes him a relic of the curmudgeons whom I battled when I was young, such as my English 301 (advanced composition) professor who called "he or she" an example of "trendy bovine waste". He did not say "bovine waste".

Well said comrade. On a lighter note, chocolate rations have increased and the war against Eurasia - whom we've always been at war with  of course - is going well. (Anyone got any razor blades please ?)