Am I too Positional?

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varelse1 wrote:

If you want to learn positional chess, i would recommend you go back, and look at Garry Kasparov's games again.

Especially his closed games.

But how do you look at them if they're closed? Is there some sort of special way to gain access?

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macer75 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:

If you want to learn positional chess, i would recommend you go back, and look at Garry Kasparov's games again.

Especially his closed games.

But how do you look at them if they're closed? Is there some sort of special way to gain access?

You're a riot, Alice.  A regular riot.

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Vlado, you have got it in you to make a comeback. You just need to play with the same flair you used to have and life you say avoid being too positional.

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VladimirHerceg91 wrote:

Optimissed our club will supreme one day and we will get the respect we deserve. 

Dannyhume and Mick, thank you for the informative posts. I have been slacking on my studies lately, this should be a great re-starting point.>>>

 

Absolutely, O Glorious Leader. You're right as always. We will show the bourgeois running-dog lackeys what it's all about. 

 

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macer75 wrote:
varelse1 wrote:

If you want to learn positional chess, i would recommend you go back, and look at Garry Kasparov's games again.

Especially his closed games.

But how do you look at them if they're closed? Is there some sort of special way to gain access?

You probably get it through that Chess masterclass system he keeps advertising. 

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When your whole entire post is riddled with bull shit it’s hard to take you seriously. I’m not even convinced you even want to improve, so I’m not going to bother to look at your games and give you advice.

The only advice I will give is this, tactics, as you know, needs to be studied by any chess player daily. I myself get away without studying tactics because I have played over 50000 blitz games that most of them where full of tactics. However, even for me, in order to see improvement, I to, must devote a certain portion of my study to tactics.

Second, you don’t know what type of player you really are until you are either close to or above the 2000 mark, some say maybe even until you are 2300. In order to become a good chess player you have to understand both tactical and positional chess. So, if you find yourself avoiding tactical positions because you are afraid of them or don’t want to learn them, then yes, the answer is to play more tactical openings until you get better at tactics, then you might be able to coast back a bit after awhile and play more positionally latter on.

Third, another thing you should be doing is studying master Games from game anthologies like Logical chess move by move and maybe My System. This should be done as often as possible. I read that 2q1c did this and still didn’t improve, which leads me to believe he was either a blithering idiot, or lying, and wasn’t really studying chess, but rather, just trolling chess players, which I believe you are doing as well.

Fourth, you need a theory book. I don’t know which theory book will suit you. That decision can only be made by you or a coach that you agree with. Yes, a chess player should agree with his coach.

Fifth, you need a lot of time.

So you see chess isn’t for the faint of heart, with little to no monetary gains for most. However, for those that love playing like me, money is not the reward.

You seem to act oblivious when people call you out as a troll, and then turn around and call them trolls for calling you a troll, however, I understand that you know perfectly well you are a troll, and that this is only a front you put up, because we all know any good troll would never admit to being a troll.

I just want you to understand where you stand trollwise V. You are nothing but a bad 2q1c, trollwise, however, if you stop this foolishness, and actually become a chess player, then maybe perhaps you will stop wasting your own time trolling a crowd that already knows your game because it is easy figure out that you are intentionally trying to mislead people. If nothing else, some clueless guy will think you are telling the truth, but when he reads what people say about you he will know. There is no point in being the kind of Troll you are, for you, because, your not even good at it, plus it’s often easy for people to find out when people are lying on the internet. All they have to do is type in some stuff from google and they will know the answer.

So, in a nutshell, my advice to you V, is to get a clue. You are wasting your time. I have no idea even why people like you get a rush when someone actually believes your bull shit, but I understand perfectly well that we all got to do what we got to do.

It is my belief that you are trying to get people to believe that even with a lot of hours it’s pretty near impossible to get better at an older age, but I know people of all ages can get better if they go about it the right way for them. Some people just get good by playing good people. Some people need extra guidance.

If by the miracle of Christ that I am wrong, then all you got to do is include a little of what I just said earlier each day, and you will get better.

You’d need to be proactive about all this stuff though. You can’t just buy the first thing someone says is good to get. You need to make an informed decision.

You’ll also need a coach, and even with a coach, you’d still need other recourse to realize your full potential as a chess player.

I left out a lot of things, however, I am not getting paid to write a book, so I’ll end here.
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Daybreak57 wrote:
When your whole entire post is riddled with bull shit it’s hard to take you seriously. I’m not even convinced you even want to improve, so I’m not going to bother to look at your games and give you advice.

The only advice I will give is this, tactics, as you know, needs to be studied by any chess player daily. I myself get away without studying tactics because I have played over 50000 blitz games that most of them where full of tactics. However, even for me, in order to see improvement, I to, must devote a certain portion of my study to tactics.

Second, you don’t know what type of player you really are until you are either close to or above the 2000 mark, some say maybe even until you are 2300. In order to become a good chess player you have to understand both tactical and positional chess. So, if you find yourself avoiding tactical positions because you are afraid of them or don’t want to learn them, then yes, the answer is to play more tactical openings until you get better at tactics, then you might be able to coast back a bit after awhile and play more positionally latter on.

Third, another thing you should be doing is studying master Games from game anthologies like Logical chess move by move and maybe My System. This should be done as often as possible. I read that 2q1c did this and still didn’t improve, which leads me to believe he was either a blithering idiot, or lying, and wasn’t really studying chess, but rather, just trolling chess players, which I believe you are doing as well.

Fourth, you need a theory book. I don’t know which theory book will suit you. That decision can only be made by you or a coach that you agree with. Yes, a chess player should agree with his coach.

Fifth, you need a lot of time.

So you see chess isn’t for the faint of heart, with little to no monetary gains for most. However, for those that love playing like me, money is not the reward.

You seem to act oblivious when people call you out as a troll, and then turn around and call them trolls for calling you a troll, however, I understand that you know perfectly well you are a troll, and that this is only a front you put up, because we all know any good troll would never admit to being a troll.

I just want you to understand where you stand trollwise V. You are nothing but a bad 2q1c, trollwise, however, if you stop this foolishness, and actually become a chess player, then maybe perhaps you will stop wasting your own time trolling a crowd that already knows your game because it is easy figure out that you are intentionally trying to mislead people. If nothing else, some clueless guy will think you are telling the truth, but when he reads what people say about you he will know. There is no point in being the kind of Troll you are, for you, because, your not even good at it, plus it’s often easy for people to find out when people are lying on the internet. All they have to do is type in some stuff from google and they will know the answer.

So, in a nutshell, my advice to you V, is to get a clue. You are wasting your time. I have no idea even why people like you get a rush when someone actually believes your bull shit, but I understand perfectly well that we all got to do what we got to do.

It is my belief that you are trying to get people to believe that even with a lot of hours it’s pretty near impossible to get better at an older age, but I know people of all ages can get better if they go about it the right way for them. Some people just get good by playing good people. Some people need extra guidance.

If by the miracle of Christ that I am wrong, then all you got to do is include a little of what I just said earlier each day, and you will get better.

You’d need to be proactive about all this stuff though. You can’t just buy the first thing someone says is good to get. You need to make an informed decision.

You’ll also need a coach, and even with a coach, you’d still need other recourse to realize your full potential as a chess player.

I left out a lot of things, however, I am not getting paid to write a book, so I’ll end here.

Thanks for the recommendations Daybreak. I hope to implement some of those study habits into my training right away! As always, a wonderfully thoughtful answer. I really appreciate it. You truely are a bright spot of these forums. Keep up the good work.

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Yes, what impresses me most about Daybreak is his empathy and willingness to make such sacrifices in his eagerness to help others.

 

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Yeah, and it's not easy empathizing with a troll.  Daybreak begins by pointing out that the OP's entire post is riddled with bull and thus it's hard to take him seriously.  But evidently, as hard as it was, he succeeded!  I like the ending too.  He left out a lot of things.  Well, at least the troll was appreciative of the attention.

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FBloggs wrote:

Yeah, and it's not easy empathizing with a troll.  Daybreak begins by pointing out that the OP's entire post is riddled with bull and thus it's hard to take him seriously.  But evidently, as hard as it was, he succeeded!  I like the ending too.  He left out a lot of things.  Well, at least the troll was appreciative of the attention.

Excuse me, I run one of the most prominent Chess clubs on the site and constantly create thought provoking threads that spark intellectual chess discussion. What have you done for our community or the game of Chess? 

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VladimirHerceg91 wrote:

Excuse me, I run one of the most prominent Chess clubs on the site and constantly create thought provoking threads that spark intellectual chess discussion. What have you done for our community or the game of Chess? 

It's not what I've done; it's what I haven't done.  I haven't created a ridiculous persona to entertain myself.  I think not doing that is a service to our community in and of itself.

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Come on, VladimirHerceg is one of the more intelligent and entertaining trolls!! He is defnitely contributing to chess.com community. 

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You people are simply jealous of his amazing 1293 rating. Haters gonna hate

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Funny how some people do not realize a troll job and take seriously what was said and start seriously arguing about it. 

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Aizen89 wrote:

Kasparov was the 12th best?  Where'd you get that random number at?  I would argue that Kasparov surpassed Karpov (though Karpov often doesn't get the respect he deserves).  I would make the case that Kasparov, Carlsen, and Fischer were/are the three greatest players to ever live (with Morphy and Tal rounding out the top five).  

How about Schlechter and Tarrasch, to name but two? And Karpov and Capablanca. I'm not sure that Kasparov was as good as all that but allowing that, Morphy and Tal were nowhere near, where they?

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yeah that's what you should do you should get a coach you should start studying really hard. Forget about your job forget about continuing any kind of college education or your wife or future soulmate put all your time into playing chess. That's what I'm gonna do.

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If we killed our chess coach we could go to prison and become a great hero there, and maybe play chess there too, and become a chess coach in later life?

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If Paul Morphy had been born 20 years ago instead of 180 years ago, nobody can know if he would have pursued chess as a career.  I doubt chess was a full-time career for any player of his era.  Today, even if a player has great natural talent, he's not going to reach the top tier without putting a tremendous amount of time and effort into the game.  But suppose Morphy was motivated to pursue a chess career.  I would bet that he would be among the best, if not the best, today.

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@FBloggs maybe even the 11th best ever.
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Aizen89 wrote:

All of those names were superb, but I think that Morphy and Tal do belong with Kasparov (who I think was second only to Carlsen and MAYBE Fischer).  Tal's great tactics still dazzle players today and he had a few games against Kasparov where he did very well.  Morphy would lose spectacularly today, but only because of a lack of theory in his day.  His natural strength, though, was amazing and I believe that if he were born in this era, that he'd do well against Carlsen and the other top players.>>>

Ah but Morphy wasn't resilient enough. He crumbled, due to psychological problems and pressures. However, Tal certainly was good. I took up using his complex pawn sac defence against the Veresov-Richter with 4. f3. It's a wonderful concept and one which even present-day GMs say is unsound because it's too complex for them to see to the end. It's one of those openings/defences that give huge, practical chances to the player who's willing to take it on and has developed a bit of understanding. Sadly, so few players these days play the 4. f3 variation, either because they're cowards, they haven't heard of it or they consider it too difficult to understand, that I haven't played Tal's defence for at least 15 years.