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DonRamadan

hello, help me people. when iam lose, iam turning in to a monster. getting angry, start cursing people.. i think everyone here wants to kill me cuz iam turning salty... what should i do?

I_want_that_check_mate

This is the first step, admitting you have a anger problem. Now if you don't want to be angry you need to be aware of what makes you angry. When you relieze you are angry remind your self it's happening again breath, count to 3, and remind your self ITS JUST A GAME. If you like the game but hate losing SIGN UP FOR A CHESS COURSE and really learn the game and tactics. If you still having a hard time really changing your self get some help don't do it alone. I remember you we played a game and you wish my family die because I won. You promised to me that day you will stop that behavior. Enough is enough stop. 

goenogambit

see a psychologist, look into the source of your feelings. no one is here to kill you, get help to understand why you think that way. you probably have no job no girlfriend no money, and you are putting all your apples into the same basket, this is just a game..

DonRamadan
كتب goenogambit:

see a psychologist, look into the source of your feelings. no one is here to kill you, get help to understand why you think that way. you probably have no job no girlfriend no money, and you are putting all your apples into the same basket, this is just a game..

dont worry, iam not like Michael De Santa from GTA V .. i hope thats no need to psychologist.. 
and i have the job and the enough money.. but iam living alone, with no love or "girlfriend".. only 2 birds and a nice fridge and some roaming geckos cry

DonRamadan
كتب I_want_that_check_mate:

This is the first step, admitting you have a anger problem. Now if you don't want to be angry you need to be aware of what makes you angry. When you relieze you are angry remind your self it's happening again breath, count to 3, and remind your self ITS JUST A GAME. If you like the game but hate losing SIGN UP FOR A CHESS COURSE and really learn the game and tactics. If you still having a hard time really changing your self get some help don't do it alone. I remember you we played a game and you wish my family die because I won. You promised to me that day you will stop that behavior. Enough is enough stop. 

 iam really sorry again my dear friend

KeSetoKaiba
DonRamadan wrote:

hello, help me people. when iam lose, iam turning in to a monster. getting angry, start cursing people.. i think everyone here wants to kill me cuz iam turning salty... what should i do?

A lot of people feel similarly after chess games - it doesn't make it right and obviously the anger (salt) hurts your long-term chess improvement, but it is probably more natural a feeling than many people give credit. For many people, they invest so much hard work into their chess game, so they take losses personal. It is like they feel justified to win - "look at all the work I invest into this game, so I deserve to win!" Other people just hate losing despite any circumstances because they are naturally really competitive, but it isn't productive to get upset with each loss because everyone should naturally win about half of their games and therefore lose about half of their games if they are constantly playing people around their own rating. You won't make long-term progress if you get upset at a result which is likely to occur about 50% of the time.

We must realize that chess can bring out these emotions because chess can be a very mentally demanding game, so it can bring your mentality to the brink and push it to the test. Seeing how you react to this just shows how you are likely to react in similar mentally straining events (non-chess related). For better or worse, chess has at least revealed to you what your "shadow" (philosophy/psychology term for the human subconscious or conscious which the person hides due to not liking those emotions or because it is not socially acceptable by society) contains and if you don't like this, then at least you've got a starting point to work with. 

Depending on your level of introspection, your level or anger and your level of mental control, you might take various actions accordingly. Some options might be:

- Using introspection to determine the root cause that triggers your chess anger. It is not chess itself and it isn't the fact that you just blundered. It goes deeper than this and if you can figure out what triggers your anger, then you can begin to fight it by making a plan BEFORE the anger takes over; trying to control tilt/anger/salt during a game is almost impossible because the emotions have already taken over. If you can eliminate the "cause" through acknowledgement or acceptance, then you can begin to not be triggered through the chess game.

- Learn to take breaks, not get so involved in the chess game or (one of my personal favorites) watch funny videos/memes when chess sessions begin to get bad so that I can "laugh it off" and feel slightly better.

- Seek professional help such as a psychologist or support group

Here are a few things you might like to check if interested:

One of several threads someone made where I posted a few funny videos just take their mind off of things like tilt: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/make-me-laugh-71606055 

A thread I made about how my online rating often feels like I'm trying so hard to go up, but it just slowly slides down or barely moves: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/my-online-chess-rating-59795420 

An old chess.com blog post I wrote over a year ago: https://www.chess.com/blog/KeSetoKaiba/rage-in-chess 

DonRamadan
كتب KeSetoKaiba:
DonRamadan wrote:

hello, help me people. when iam lose, iam turning in to a monster. getting angry, start cursing people.. i think everyone here wants to kill me cuz iam turning salty... what should i do?

A lot of people feel similarly after chess games - it doesn't make it right and obviously the anger (salt) hurts your long-term chess improvement, but it is probably more natural a feeling than many people give credit. For many people, they invest so much hard work into their chess game, so they take losses personal. It is like they feel justified to win - "look at all the work I invest into this game, so I deserve to win!" Other people just hate losing despite any circumstances because they are naturally really competitive, but it isn't productive to get upset with each loss because everyone should naturally win about half of their games and therefore lose about half of their games if they are constantly playing people around their own rating. You won't make long-term progress if you get upset at a result which is likely to occur about 50% of the time.

We must realize that chess can bring out these emotions because chess can be a very mentally demanding game, so it can bring your mentality to the brink and push it to the test. Seeing how you react to this just shows how you are likely to react in similar mentally straining events (non-chess related). For better or worse, chess has at least revealed to you what your "shadow" (philosophy/psychology term for the human subconscious or conscious which the person hides due to not liking those emotions or because it is not socially acceptable by society) contains and if you don't like this, then at least you've got a starting point to work with. 

Depending on your level of introspection, your level or anger and your level of mental control, you might take various actions accordingly. Some options might be:

- Using introspection to determine the root cause that triggers your chess anger. It is not chess itself and it isn't the fact that you just blundered. It goes deeper than this and if you can figure out what triggers your anger, then you can begin to fight it by making a plan BEFORE the anger takes over; trying to control tilt/anger/salt during a game is almost impossible because the emotions have already taken over. If you can eliminate the "cause" through acknowledgement or acceptance, then you can begin to not be triggered through the chess game.

- Learn to take breaks, not get so involved in the chess game or (one of my personal favorites) watch funny videos/memes when chess sessions begin to get bad so that I can "laugh it off" and feel slightly better.

- Seek professional help such as a psychologist or support group

Here are a few things you might like to check if interested:

One of several threads someone made where I posted a few funny videos just take their mind off of things like tilt: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/make-me-laugh-71606055 

A thread I made about how my online rating often feels like I'm trying so hard to go up, but it just slowly slides down or barely moves: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/my-online-chess-rating-59795420 

An old chess.com blog post I wrote over a year ago: https://www.chess.com/blog/KeSetoKaiba/rage-in-chess 

i think iam getting angry from that reasons, i do my best then i lose and iam getting angry some times from the sound of the opponent moves.. i have some emotional problems.. no love.. living alone.. hard work.. i think this effect on the chess game

eric0022
DonRamadan wrote:

hello, help me people. when iam lose, iam turning in to a monster. getting angry, start cursing people.. i think everyone here wants to kill me cuz iam turning salty... what should i do?

 

Anger can only stalemate you. It cannot checkmate you.

 

Use this oppurtunity of "salvaging a draw from a loss" to overcome your anger! Realise that losing is part of the game! For every player who wins, there will be a player who loses. If one player wins all the time, I would feel suspicious about the player.

 

But one thing remains unchanged - your knowledge and experience can only become enriched over time.

BigMumsy
It’s just a game why do you have to be mad?
JaiFas

Don't be mad

JohnNapierSanDiego
DonRamadan wrote:

hello, help me people. when iam lose, iam turning in to a monster. getting angry, start cursing people.. i think everyone here wants to kill me cuz iam turning salty... what should i do?

 

I think you should flip tables over and come at them in an aggressive fashion, very quickly, all while yelling and screaming at the top of your lungs, "I am a monster!!!! roar!!!!"  If you happen to catch one of them, just let your feelings guide you...