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llamonade
Apr 6, 2019
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#41
trump2020maga1 wrote:
BestKidInSchool wrote:
*Natural* *selection*. Those who don’t have the good organs die and their traits aren’t passed on.

But where did the first one come from?

What you're talking about is irreducible complexity.

That argument doesn't work though. Hearts, lungs, eyes, they all started as USEFUL but less developed version of what they are today.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#42
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
BestKidInSchool wrote:
There’s a lot of evidence against vaccines and I know a lot of people who disagree with them. Does that mean that they’re not useful? No.

That has nothing to do with it

Viruses and bacteria evolve too.

Something you would have learned about if your parents didn't keep you out of school is nylon eating bacteria. Nylon didn't exist until the 1900s, so this happened in a relatively short period of time.

How do you know that's not just when we discovered it

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llamonade
Apr 6, 2019
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#43
trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
BestKidInSchool wrote:
There’s a lot of evidence against vaccines and I know a lot of people who disagree with them. Does that mean that they’re not useful? No.

That has nothing to do with it

Viruses and bacteria evolve too.

Something you would have learned about if your parents didn't keep you out of school is nylon eating bacteria. Nylon didn't exist until the 1900s, so this happened in a relatively short period of time.

How do you know that's not just when we discovered it

Nylon is man made, it wasn't discovered.

Nylon eating bacteria didn't exist before that because, obviously, they would have starved...

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Michaels-Jaxon
Apr 6, 2019
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#44

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#45
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
BestKidInSchool wrote:
There’s a lot of evidence against vaccines and I know a lot of people who disagree with them. Does that mean that they’re not useful? No.

That has nothing to do with it

Viruses and bacteria evolve too.

Something you would have learned about if your parents didn't keep you out of school is nylon eating bacteria. Nylon didn't exist until the 1900s, so this happened in a relatively short period of time.

How do you know that's not just when we discovered it

Nylon is man made, it wasn't discovered.

Nylon eating bacteria didn't exist before that because, obviously, they would have starved...

That's really cool

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Geodexic
Apr 6, 2019
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#46
BestKidInSchool wrote:
*Natural* *selection*. Those who don’t have the good organs die and their traits aren’t passed on.

Evolution is more complex than that. The prey-hunter relationship, live style, environment, and catastrophic events would influence the process.

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Michaels-Jaxon
Apr 6, 2019
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#47

all extremely obvious things, for which only single celled organisms would need explained to them or a theory for.

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Michaels-Jaxon
Apr 6, 2019
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#48
trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
BestKidInSchool wrote:
There’s a lot of evidence against vaccines and I know a lot of people who disagree with them. Does that mean that they’re not useful? No.

That has nothing to do with it

Viruses and bacteria evolve too.

Something you would have learned about if your parents didn't keep you out of school is nylon eating bacteria. Nylon didn't exist until the 1900s, so this happened in a relatively short period of time.

How do you know that's not just when we discovered it

Nylon is man made, it wasn't discovered.

Nylon eating bacteria didn't exist before that because, obviously, they would have starved...

That's really cool

unnatural selection is so amazing.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#49

It sure is.  Don't think you new kinds of animals from it.  you can breed a wolf into poodle but not a fish. DNA has limits. You can breed very big dogs but you can't get one 5000 pounds. It's not the DNA limits

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llamonade
Apr 6, 2019
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#50
trump2020maga1 wrote:

It sure is.  Don't think you new kinds of animals from it.  you can breed a wolf into poodle but not a fish. DNA has limits. You can breed very big dogs but you can't get one 5000 pounds. It's not the DNA limits

People who study animals and DNA disagree with you. You who are only guessing.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#51

Well I'm all ears if you have evidence that DNA has no limits. Not a sciencetist you know

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Geodexic
Apr 6, 2019
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#52
trump2020maga1 wrote:

It sure is.  Don't think you new kinds of animals from it.  you can breed a wolf into poodle but not a fish. DNA has limits. You can breed very big dogs but you can't get one 5000 pounds. It's not the DNA limits

Creationist and evolutionist views could be in coexistence.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#53
Geodexic wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

It sure is.  Don't think you new kinds of animals from it.  you can breed a wolf into poodle but not a fish. DNA has limits. You can breed very big dogs but you can't get one 5000 pounds. It's not the DNA limits

Creationist and evolutionist views could be in coexistence.

Can't talk about creationism on this forum sadly😢. We could get my forum locked 

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llamonade
Apr 6, 2019
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#54

Remember it's small changes over a long time. Millions of years.

From the very small (genes) to the very large (limbs) related organisms share traits.

For example most animals can make their own vitamin C. Humans can't. We die of scurvy. We have the gene to make vitamin C, but it's broken. Guess who else has this same broken gene... all animals in certain suborders of primates, including gorillas, orangutans, and chimpanzees. This happened 10s of millions of years ago.

Google says we share 98% of our DNA with mice (I don't know how they measure that) but the point is what you think of as limit breaking differences aren't so different on the small scale.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#55

If any of you want to say something to me about creationism please private message me

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#56

Is that okay Dave the moderator?

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#57
llamonade wrote:

Remember it's small changes over a long time. Millions of years.

From the very small (genes) to the very large (limbs) related organisms share traits.

For example most animals can make their own vitamin C. Humans can't. We die of scurvy. We have the gene to make vitamin C, but it's broken. Guess who else has this same broken gene... all animals in certain suborders of primates, including gorillas, orangutans, and chimpanzees. This happened 10s of millions of years ago.

Google says we share 98% of our DNA with mice (I don't know how they measure that) but the point is what you think of as limit breaking differences aren't so different on the small scale.

Hmm that's interesting. Wonder how they measure tho. Doesn't look that way

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#58

I don't even know if 2% difference is alot

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llamonade
Apr 6, 2019
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#59

Well, I don't know much biology to be honest.

If you want to learn about biology, you should get a book and ask e.g. a professor.

It doesn't mean you have to agree with the book or the person, but at least that way you'll know what's out there instead of being told lies about biology from people who know nothing about biology.

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PetecantbeatmeSLFL
Apr 6, 2019
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#60

How do you think a big bang can organize the right chemicals in the right amount in the right order? Scientists still cant create life in the laboratory but we are supposed to believe a explosion can