yeah I don't have any personal experiences from 1. but i have been told by a few titled players that it hurts your chess, but I guess it varies from person to person
Any Successful Untitled Coaches out there?
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Jan 1, 2019
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Yeah, I can understand how that could be the case. It could be a case of good time management and organization, and some people don't have the skills... who knows...
Jan 1, 2019
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EOGuel wrote:
Yeah, I can understand how that could be the case. It could be a case of good time management and organization, and some people don't have the skills... who knows...
Indeed, that is a very truth thing.
But some people do have the skills! Among those are people like me, Joseph the RAR Attacker! Make him your coach and great things will happen!
I taught my very first chess lesson yesterday. If indeed I start getting worse at chess, well then I’m done with it!
Jan 1, 2019
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#65
Joseph_Truelson wrote:
EOGuel wrote:
Yeah, I can understand how that could be the case. It could be a case of good time management and organization, and some people don't have the skills... who knows...
Indeed, that is a very truth thing.
But some people do have the skills! Among those are people like me, Joseph the RAR Attacker! Make him your coach and great things will happen!
I taught my very first chess lesson yesterday. If indeed I start getting worse at chess, well then I’m done with it!
What are your rates like? 
Jan 1, 2019
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EOGuel wrote:
I didn't say that.
Wow. Did you think about how that would make me feel
Jan 1, 2019
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#69
Joseph_Truelson wrote:
EOGuel wrote:
I didn't say that.
Wow. Did you think about how that would make me feel
Wow. I didn't quite come here to talk about feelings sir.
I think a good way to learn chess is to teach chess. It kind of helps consolidate what you know. So maybe if you carried on as you were you'd get a title anyway.
"... I’ve known many very low-rated chess teachers who are absolutely excellent. Teaching is a skill, and even if you’re rated 1500, you might be just what the doctor ordered for children or beginners of any age. …" - IM Jeremy Silman (2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/can-anyone-be-an-im-or-gm
("It's not all bad news!" section)
Jan 2, 2019
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iProfJon wrote:
I think a good way to learn chess is to teach chess. It kind of helps consolidate what you know. So maybe if you carried on as you were you'd get a title anyway.
ONLY if you find a worthy coach
Jan 2, 2019
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MyGreatMethod1 wrote:
I cannot say that I am a successful untitled coach. Four of my students are now FIDE masters. Also a former student who has another coach is already an IM. My goal is to produce GMs.
If that is success, then I don’t know what isn’t. That’s horrible!
chessguy1012 wrote:
Sorry, but this sounds like you just made it up on the spot in order to participate in the discussion. Firstly, How exactly does coaching make your playing worse? Secondly, Players who disregard him wouldn't pay him for coaching in the first place, so it's a non issue. Your last point is so absurd I won't qualify it with a response.
I would coach but there are a few things that will happen/might happen and I think it would probably also happen to you...
1. coaching arguably makes your chess worse, therefore worsens your chances of becoming master.
2. Some players may just disregard you because your a kid, and most of the times kids probably aren't that good at teaching.
3. In the end, life will catch up with you. You want to become a coach, but also study chess at the same time, it is possible but in the end probably you will become to busy to do one of them and you would have to give it up
Jan 9, 2019
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kindaspongey wrote:
The movie about chess kids "Brooklyn castle" is being offered on youtube, I have not watched it yet. I believe that some of the kids featured in the movie are now Natonal Masters and Fide Masters with chess scholarships at Webster University, under the guidance and coaching of GM Susan Polgar. https://gamesmaven.io/chessdailynews/scholastic/webster-university-announces-2017-2018-1-ranked-chess-team-EagTc2H7a0uafG-85Q8HLA/
Jan 10, 2019
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#77
FangBo wrote:
what is scholastics?
Chess played by elementary, middle school, or high school kids (teenagers) in the USA.
There are some areas that have a lot of scholastic tournaments and county or state scholastic championships. It used to be done by school chess coaches - having a couple qualify to be tournament directors, but it has reached the point in many areas as a money maker for private people who charge disgustingly high fees for entering.
Jan 10, 2019
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#78
Note that, in general, very few master players make a decent living from coaching chess.
I was a 1600 OTB player who coached a very successful public high school chess team that won enough county and state team trophies that one parent from a $50,000 tuition/year private school said to me, "We ought to have a league among the top schools like..." and he reeled-off the names of some very expensive private schools plus "Old Mill," the $0 tuition public school where I taught and coached!
Consequently, a lot of expert and master players must have thought we were a private school where parents had lots of money and asked to give a talk to our Chess Club. They were desperately looking for students and were stunned to learn we were a public school - where they got no takers since I was bringing them along fairly well.
Note, by the way, that in the 1990's I was paid $600 to coach the Chess Club and team for the entire school year - most of that money going for equipment and books - and I collected nothing for being USCF Tournament Director of our county's scholastic tournaments, but I was paid $3000 to coach the school's Cross Country Team (usually North County Champion, top 20 in State) for 12 weeks each Autumn.
Used to be part-time coach of juniors team once. Found my chess skills improved as well.
jjupiter6 wrote:
chessguy1012 wrote:
Sorry, but this sounds like you just made it up on the spot in order to participate in the discussion. Firstly, How exactly does coaching make your playing worse? Secondly, Players who disregard him wouldn't pay him for coaching in the first place, so it's a non issue. Your last point is so absurd I won't qualify it with a response.
I would coach but there are a few things that will happen/might happen and I think it would probably also happen to you...
1. coaching arguably makes your chess worse, therefore worsens your chances of becoming master.
2. Some players may just disregard you because your a kid, and most of the times kids probably aren't that good at teaching.
3. In the end, life will catch up with you. You want to become a coach, but also study chess at the same time, it is possible but in the end probably you will become to busy to do one of them and you would have to give it up
I would retaliate but I can't win an argument with someone with such a high iq like you
@chessguy1012
1. While I don't disagree with your argument, I've never found my coaching to make my chess worse. Even if it does take time away I could be studying, it never really hurts my chess and plus, it gives me motivation to study if my students are as well. That could be the case in the long run, not sure.
2. I get that point as well, though keep in mind that I turn 18 in March... so I'm not quite a kid.
3. That kind of was the point of this forum topic. I'm wondering if becoming a chess master does not work out if I can devote at least part-time to chess coaching. I could be wrong, though I still believe I have a few more solid years until "life catches up to me".
I do appreciate your insights.