Ban Vladimir Kramnik for life

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If you look at X / Twitter you will see that kramnik will be deep fried XD

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Kramnik has turned into a psychopath. He deserves jail!
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DiogenesDue wrote:
sawdof wrote:
AHol87 wrote:
.... In this user's opinion, Vladimir Kramnik is in some part morally culpable in Daniel's death. ...

Agree with everything else but this, which while generally true, can be said of everyone and everything that Danya interacted with.

As it is, almost everyone loves Danya and there seems to be very little love lost for kramnik.

Still, choosing this moment to push for a ban also seems more emotional than logical.

I don't know if FIDE would ever ban him. I'll settle for him being a pariah of the chess community going forward. I think he should reap exactly what he sowed.

Yes, Kramnick never seemed to be liked. But looking at his picture, Danya definitely wasn't all that physically healthy.

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Optimissed wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
sawdof wrote:
AHol87 wrote:
.... In this user's opinion, Vladimir Kramnik is in some part morally culpable in Daniel's death. ...

Agree with everything else but this, which while generally true, can be said of everyone and everything that Danya interacted with.

As it is, almost everyone loves Danya and there seems to be very little love lost for kramnik.

Still, choosing this moment to push for a ban also seems more emotional than logical.

I don't know if FIDE would ever ban him. I'll settle for him being a pariah of the chess community going forward. I think he should reap exactly what he sowed.

Yes, Kramnick never seemed to be liked. But looking at his picture, Danya definitely wasn't all that physically healthy.

He was definitely more healthy before the kramnik stuff tho

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Just check twitter/x about what kramnik keeps posting, he keeps slandering danya even post mortem and still not a thing about saying condolences to the family or anything. I have absolutely no idea how can FIDE tolerate this. Well looking at what sutovsky posted tho i can see kramnik getting away with it while he is the head of the organizaion.

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His Posts on X / Twitter are ragebait and a piece of shit

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And what will banning Kramnik accomplish? Nothing. Banning Kramnik and anyone else that is toxic will not fix the mental health issues people deal with. As I said before. Kramnik is a symptom of a much large problem. He is not the root cause. You cure the problem, not the symptom.

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So why are we locking up ppl in jail? They are not the root cause crime exists they are just the symptoms. Besides, do you really want such a person to represent chess internationally?

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Kramnik is already getting what he deserves. Almost the entire chess community is now angry with him (to say the least). Even people who initially fully supported him in his "anti-cheating" crusade have turned away from him (e.g. Levitov chess, and that was even before this tragic event). He is increasingly becoming a social pariah, no one outside of Russia (and probably even within) will ever invite him to any chess event. He has dug his own grave and he is unlikely to get out of it.

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#29--What does the ❌ mean?No Kramnik or don't ban kramnik

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Kramnik just destoyed his own life,lol

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People are locked up because they fail to live by the rules of society. Does locking them up address the root cause? No. And that is why crime continues to happen. Chess is well able to represent itself. It doesn't need a spokesperson. Now should Kramnik be punished? Absolutely. But this moral high ground people are taking serves no realistic purpose.

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LieutenantFrankColumbo wrote:

People are locked up because they fail to live by the rules of society. Does locking them up address the root cause? No. And that is why crime continues to happen. Chess is well able to represent itself. It doesn't need a spokesperson. Now should Kramnik be punished? Absolutely. But this moral high ground people are taking serves no realistic purpose.

I think they want support systems in place and for fida to do something no offense lol punish the person who did it and then build a system that lessens the impact of people who do it in the future

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But if we keep attacking Kramnik and he dies.Then we are also bad,are we?

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ChickenvinhOG42 wrote:

But if we keep attacking Kramnik and he dies.Then we are also bad,are we?

Not really I think he's too crazy to have that happen he acts like an American politician (the crazy ones )

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No offense taken. We all have opinions on this.

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#38 ah ok

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#39--you're right

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No idea what politics has to do with this. Actually yes I do