Blitz and Rapid Ratings

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I have noticed that some players have a blitz rating of 1900+ yet have a rapid rating of under 900. Is it because blitz and rapid games do not correlate?
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It's a good bet that their Rapid rating simply isn't accurate -- did you check to see how many games they'd played in that variation?  If they've only played a couple of games, and lost them, that could explain it.

And, if plenty of games have been played, one can imagine any number of other logical explanations -- maybe they themselves never play Rapid, but let their patzer of a niece, or whatever, play Rapid games on their account.  Etc., etc.

But, yes, all things being equal and on the up-and-up, generally speaking, one's Rapid rating will usually be higher than their Blitz rating, or at least pretty comparable.

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They probably just don't care about rapid. It's good too, since when you're 1800+ rapid, every other player you play is an engine user.

The only popular time control you can anything slower than bullet is 3+0, since you have a good chance of beating engine users on time. Anything else, and the engine user will win almost always. 

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What is time control for Rapid?
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Yeah, check games played, average opponent rating, highest rating, best win, and maybe their history graph to get an idea of what their ability is.

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Monie49 wrote:
What is time control for Rapid?

15 minutes or longer.

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Thanks.

Bullet is only 1 minute time control?

What is 3 minute?  Both bullet?

I play 5 minute which is blitz.

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Cherub_Enjel wrote:

They probably just don't care about rapid. It's good too, since when you're 1800+ rapid, every other player you play is an engine user.

 

+1 much!

Will MODS lock this thread as well? Or will something finally be DONE about the problem?

I really want to play more slow games on this site. It's really a shame that I can't.

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Nobody asked me but I prefer playing 3/2 blitz and 30/0 rapid myself. I don't like 15/10 because I get more time to think with a 30/0 time control. I like 3/0 but that seems a tad fast for me. I like 5/0. I think with a 5/0 time control I play my best blitz. The time control 10/0 always gives me gas and as far as I can tell only lunatics play 5/5 games. They are such a nightmare. What I mean is that when you play a 5/5 game you never know when the bugger is ever going to end. Now I love playing 1/0 bullet. I don't care if I win or not I just love watching the little pieces chase each other around the board.

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I love 5/0 OTB. Here I generally have no patience for that so I play 3 0. 

I may switch to 3 2 at some point, though - as some poster had a good point here in the forums the other day, that one should practice for the kind of time control one faces under tournament conditions. 

It's true that in Belgium, when I play official games, rated blitz tourney are 3/2. I don't like that time control, and did horribly on the one tourney I played (got a horrendous 1942 blitz rating - when generally I'm better in blitz than my classical level). 

So yes, one should prepare - you know, maybe one day...

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Cherub_Enjel wrote:

They probably just don't care about rapid. It's good too, since when you're 1800+ rapid, every other player you play is an engine user.

The only popular time control you can anything slower than bullet is 3+0, since you have a good chance of beating engine users on time. Anything else, and the engine user will win almost always. 

EXACTLY! I was playing rapid games, and when I was at 1900 I started to face some engine users, and stoped to play this mode. Now I just play bullet and blitz games. I know they have cheat because their account is now closed after I report all of them (suppose cheaters). Just me closed three accounts. And then I never played standard (or rapid) mode anymore. Now I will play fast games, or rapid and classic games only in real life. Some people here has no honor.

 

Moreover, I am an +1900 player thinking fast (bullet and blitz), I mean, I think I could reach +1900 thinking slowly (calculating more deeply, with deeply positional ideas, cause I really study chess by reading books and solving good chess tactical exercises), but the only thing I knwo is that play rapid games (more than 10 or 15 minutes) is not good, because the cheaters always will thief all your points. You play some honests people and get a good rating (1900 for exemple), than you start to face some cheaters that get 50 points your...), so you start to think that there are any motivation to continue feeding them.

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when i play rapid online here, either i get bored and start doing something else and forget im playing, or remember im playing and take 5 seconds per move and dont really care.... but my blitz is higher than my rapid

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This account will be closed very soon: https://www.chess.com/member/chikasaw

 

He played with me about 2 months ago and won all the three games with insane statistics (no blunder, nor mistakes, +75% best moves etc.), and I reported him in the past, but the chess.com policy just gives a "notification" to the cheaters when they are exposed by the first time and they just earns notifications when was found enough evidence of cheating)... But now I have another evidence of him because he played a game with another person after me, and... he used engine in that game too! At least his statistics is very suspicious: https://www.chess.com/live/game/2071507457?username=chikasaw (the game has 33 moves... he made 33 excelent moves, according to chess.com analysis border... end of my argument). I will send this game to some supporter guy, and my experience says to me that in about two days his account will be closed! He is a shame! Trust me, in only two day his account will be closed.

 

Thank you, people, to remember me that I played with dirty players, this made me go to an old engine user that I have reported some months ago for search if he played and used engine with other people. Now he is done.

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Oh well there goes my thread. 🌹

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OTB rapid is a different animal with blitz. Not accurate moves that you might get away in blitz can be punished at rapid.

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<Hey_Randi> Unfortunately the RAPID pool is so INFESTED, that you can hardly open a thread and talk about RAPID these days, without it going into LOCKED mode pretty quickly. 

Hello, chess.com, anybody?

How about cleaning that pool?

I want to play rapid here as well...

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Yeah, I like slower time controls and end up playing 10 0 blitz, which is as slow as blitz gets....can't seem to play a decent game at faster time controls because my memory seems bad at 63 and I have trouble memorizing openings, but my "calculator" still works. My understanding is that it is easy to cheat at any speed....somebody even said on one of these forums there is an app that works with one minute bullet....it lights a square up green for the best move.....

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For some reason the 1 0 pool and the 3 0 pool are really clean. I play above 2000 and at least 99% of the players at that level are clean. Someone is doing a fantastic job.

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Solskytz is right about the rapid pool here. Absolutely infested with engines. Until recently I was a paying member here and on that account I faced an absurd amount of engines including a stretch of 6 games where 3 of those opponents cheated. Played in 2 rapid tournaments, my only losses were to engines. Totally ridiculous. 3 minute blitz is the only thing I'll play now on here. I play my rapid on a site with way fewer engines. They really need to clean this place up.

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Couldn't agree more - but I'll remain a paying member for a long time. This site has many perks and advantages that make it a great place - one can't always demand perfection.

Who knows what difficulties they are running into, that make it difficult to clean the rapid pool...