ghost_of_pushwood wrote:
what is it?
2....Bc5
Boi Variation of Bishop's Opening
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Apr 20, 2019
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#4
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:
oh boi!
C'mon--bad jokes aside, it was a serious question.
2...Bc5 is a good move, and that game was a bad one- due to Black's extremely poor play.
Is that what you want to know?
Apr 21, 2019
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#6
pfren wrote:
2...Bc5 is a good move, and that game was a bad one- due to Black's extremely poor play.
Is that what you want to know?
No, I mainly wanted to know: "Any sharp lines/traps against [the Boi variation]?" Hence, my question with precisely that verbiage. If you don't want to answer, then don't, but why be rude about it? Trying to get better over here.
Apr 21, 2019
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#7
JimmySteele wrote:
pfren wrote:
2...Bc5 is a good move, and that game was a bad one- due to Black's extremely poor play.
Is that what you want to know?
No, I mainly wanted to know: "Any sharp lines/traps against [the Boi variation]?" Hence, my question with precisely that verbiage. If you don't want to answer, then don't, but why be rude about it? Trying to get better over here.
It's a bit of an odd question though. The Bishop's Opening is already rare, so if you're playing some unusual stuff people would expect you to know what you're playing. It's like if I asked if people know any traps against 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Bg4 - firstly nobody would know and secondly even if they did it would seem weird as if I'm playing 1.f4 in the first place I should know what I'm doing.
my137thaccount wrote:
JimmySteele wrote:
pfren wrote:
2...Bc5 is a good move, and that game was a bad one- due to Black's extremely poor play.
Is that what you want to know?
No, I mainly wanted to know: "Any sharp lines/traps against [the Boi variation]?" Hence, my question with precisely that verbiage. If you don't want to answer, then don't, but why be rude about it? Trying to get better over here.
It's a bit of an odd question though. The Bishop's Opening is already rare, so if you're playing some unusual stuff people would expect you to know what you're playing. It's like if I asked if people know any traps against 1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Bg4 - firstly nobody would know and secondly even if they did it would seem weird as if I'm playing 1.f4 in the first place I should know what I'm doing.
''so if you're playing some unusual stuff people would expect you to know what you're playing''. Not necessary, he could just be trying new stuff out and he wants to know some sharp lines/ traps against it.
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Apr 21, 2019
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#9
Scotch opening was rare... till Kasparov played. bishop game is respected.
Bois will be bois...
Apr 21, 2019
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#11
To my knowledge there is no way to exploit 2...Bc5 and it normally transposes to the Italian. You played a fine game.
TheOneAndOnly18 έγραψε:
To my knowledge there is no way to exploit 2...Bc5 and it normally transposes to the Italian. You played a fine game.
3.Qg4 is an interesting independent try, which leads to rather unusual positions.
Apr 21, 2019
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Lion_XVI wrote:
Scotch opening was rare... till Kasparov played. bishop game is respected.
Yeah, not disputing this
Apr 21, 2019
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#15
pfren wrote:
TheOneAndOnly18 έγραψε:
To my knowledge there is no way to exploit 2...Bc5 and it normally transposes to the Italian. You played a fine game.
3.Qg4 is an interesting independent try, which leads to rather unusual positions.
Oh yeah there's that. I don't consider it good, so it's not really "exploring" in my book. I just feel white loses too many tempos with the queen due to ideas such as Qf6, Ne7, and d6, but you're right, it leads to a different position.
Apr 21, 2019
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#16
pfren wrote:
TheOneAndOnly18 έγραψε:
To my knowledge there is no way to exploit 2...Bc5 and it normally transposes to the Italian. You played a fine game.
3.Qg4 is an interesting independent try, which leads to rather unusual positions.
Is QG4 sound? Seems like it's an easy way to get your queen chased around while black develops pieces and gains tempi in the process.
Jimmy Steele, how do you plan to chase the queen? Pfren’s recommended line seems pretty sound to me. Stockfish even rates this position at slighty above 0 for White; so it’s most definitely not throwing the win to Black.
Apr 22, 2019
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#18
LM_player wrote:
Jimmy Steele, how do you plan to chase the queen? Pfren’s recommended line seems pretty sound to me. Stockfish even rates this position at slighty above 0 for White; so it’s most definitely not throwing the win to Black.
How about Qf6 with an eye for d5! next turn?
Apr 22, 2019
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#19
JimmySteele wrote:
LM_player wrote:
Jimmy Steele, how do you plan to chase the queen? Pfren’s recommended line seems pretty sound to me. Stockfish even rates this position at slighty above 0 for White; so it’s most definitely not throwing the win to Black.
How about Qf6 with an eye for d5! next turn?
Not sure 4. ... d5 deserves an exclam when White can reply Qxc8+
JimmySteele έγραψε:
LM_player wrote:
Jimmy Steele, how do you plan to chase the queen? Pfren’s recommended line seems pretty sound to me. Stockfish even rates this position at slighty above 0 for White; so it’s most definitely not throwing the win to Black.
How about Qf6 with an eye for d5! next turn?
In that case I guess white won't be too upset if d5 is played. He will probably laugh his ass off, but that's all.
In his old "Three double king's pawn openings" former correspondence World Champion Yaakov Estrin goes as far as suggesting 3.Qg4 Qf6 4.Nc3!? as interesting- despite that the f2 pawn can be taken with check in a couple of ways. Actually he offers a few correspondence games played this way, and he claims that white is very active.
Modern engines dismiss this speculative idea, but refuting it OTB is another story.
What does everyone think of the Boi response (as black) to bishop's opening? Any sharp lines/traps against it? Here is a recent game with a few blunders.