Can someone explain this endgame? I suck at chess

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JamesColeman wrote:

If you're losing that as white again and again for an hour, that's quite a remarkable achievment.

Either this is a troll thread, or the OP is always taking and undoubling black's pawns on his first move, and just not realizing it. 

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his rating tells me he might really struggle with this haha which is why im helping☺

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1...bc 2.bc is not chess notation. it must be a typo

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But basically the idea of the endgame:

Whoever gets their pawns to the end win, because they get a queen and can pick off all the other pawns. 

In this position, white has more pawns on the kingside - this lets him create a pawn that can queen (since if it traded for all the other pawns, there would be one left). On the queenside, black has a majority, but there's a doubled pawn in the majority.

That means that it may be impossible for black to create a passed pawn, and that's indeed true, as long as white never takes any of the black queenside pawns, unless recapturing. 

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@cherub_enjel Yes I realised that's a perfectly possible (and indeed forgivable way to lose once) for a relative beginner, but again and again for an hour? The mind boggles.

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masterfowler wrote:

impossible...there is no way he queens before you

 

i keep back spacing moves and its impossible to win, ill copy and paste what im doing

 

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 And you're correct - it's not chess notation.

Literally the person writing the script was too lazy to write "bxc3", so they wrote "bc" instead for shorthand, which is actually quite common.They assumed the people taking the lesson would understand, which now you do.

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white wins really easily.

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 well i play custom positions on my phone, i dont see that option on my PC, which is what im using for this forum...

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Hopefully you understand the position now - and I'm sure if you read the chess mentor lesson carefully, they will mention how the plan for white is to force a passed pawn on the kingside, then abandon it as a decoy for the black king, and then go to the queenside and capture all the black pawns, and have 2 white passed pawns, and get a queen. 

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The idea of a decoy is very important in K+P endgames - it happens so often.

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 so chess.com doesn't allow custom positions? but the phone app does?

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DefinitelyNotFx wrote:
Darylprater wrote:

 so chess.com doesn't allow custom positions? but the phone app does?

https://www.chess.com/analysis-board-editor

 

Click on ''set up position'', then click on the trashcan to clear the board and set up whatever position you want.

thanks

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Darylprater wrote:
DefinitelyNotFx wrote:
Darylprater wrote:

 so chess.com doesn't allow custom positions? but the phone app does?

https://www.chess.com/analysis-board-editor

 

Click on ''set up position'', then click on the trashcan to clear the board and set up whatever position you want.

thanks

but on my phone the computer will play in a custom position. here i can only play by myself 

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 wrong. put the computer on hard. it goes 1... Ke7 2. Kg5 Kf8 3. f6 gxf6+ 4. Kxf6 Kg8 5. g7 b3 6. Kg6 and its a stalemate everytime,

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ive had a draw like 50 times this way already

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Darylprater wrote:

 wrong. put the computer on hard. it goes 1... Ke7 2. Kg5 Kf8 3. f6 gxf6+ 4. Kxf6 Kg8 5. g7 b3 6. Kg6 and its a stalemate everytime,

Stop trolling.

Obviously 6.Kg6 is stalemate and any other legal move wins easily for white. White's king goes to the queenside and captures all the pawns.

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😂😂😂

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lol a diamond troll

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Cherub_Enjel wrote:

lol a diamond troll

im not a troll, i just picked a bad site where the programmers cant even write chess notation properly