Can the average person learn to play blindfold chess?

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StairwayToTruth

This is a section of a 16-month old article (you could find it on this website) which is relevant to this topic:

 

   The initial task the brain encounters when first seeing chess pieces is the understanding of what those pieces are and what they do. When one first sees a chess board with pieces, there is utter confusion and the brain may signal the person to give up – but the person winds up associating these pieces with their respective positions on a board and how those pieces move.

          This is done when the eye registers signals about the positions of each piece and how the pieces are associated. The newly established visual signals are transferred to the brain, which attempts to make sense of the board and pieces via neuron connections. These connections use previous experiences and memories, seen as similar to those found a chessboard, to help a person comprehend the positions of pieces on the board. Thus, a person, subconsciously, is able to associate these pieces with each other. Next, to learn how the pieces move, a person must be able to connect these symbols / pieces to a particular change in position. Thus, the brain uses further neurons, already connected with the initial neuron connections used to understand the original positions of the pieces, to connect with memories and experiences that involved connecting symbols with functions (i.e. waving a hand signals a greeting or a farewell). Thus, the brain is able to connect the functions of the chess pieces with the pieces themselves. Finally, the brain connects the functions with the original positions of the pieces. Therefore, without actually paying attention to the symbols representing positions or changes in position, the brain is able to connect initial positions with changes in position. As a person learns how to change the positions of chess pieces, new neuron connections associate with the older neuron connections used for the original change in position for chess pieces. A person is therefore able to associate new positions with similar changes in position.

          Next, the brain must be able to associate the functions of the pieces with each other. This, of course, comes after the brain is able to master the positional changes of the pieces from any position on the board. At this point, visuals [of the board] are not necessary. The brain has already made enough connections to establish the visual-spatial relationships of the pieces and their associated functions; now, the brain can attempt to connect the functions of the pieces and focus them onto different positional spots established by memory. Thus, the brain is able to create combinations involving more than one piece in order to create an objective that focuses on particular positions on the board. This is how chess players ultimately train themselves – they begin to make more connections that allow them to logically see their combinations and responses to their combinations. This all done in the mind, and not actually on the board (at least not in OTB / over-the-board chess). It is obvious that playing out combinations directly on a board would make this process easier, but training directly within the mind, without the necessity of visual stimuli that represent the pieces, gives more difficult training that helps the neurons connect and allows for improvement of the game based on the connections of these neurons.

NOTE: The previous three paragraphs were based solely on my analysis of learning based on my knowledge of neuron connections. The true validity of this information is disputable, but nevertheless, my analysis should be roughly accurate.

          It is clear that, at some point, every professional chess player thinks deeply about moves within their minds. But is my claim that visualization of chess pieces is a “luxury” when thinking about moves and combinations true? You may want to test this out, and do so thus: visualize a chess board with all the pieces completely set up – then play several moves in your head. You should notice that your chessboard and pieces don’t seem to have a particular shape / color / size, or even dimensions that connect to how you see them on the chessboard. You seem to simply “know” where the pieces go and how they move without having to actually picture a knight or a King. This is extremely normal; in fact, an account of this experience has been described by a person who plays blind chess: http://notebook.kulchenko.com/intelligence/blind-chess-and-working-memory. I must note that the points I make in this paragraph on based on this person’s account and on my realization that I have nearly the same experience as this person whilst playing blind chess, or even when thinking about moves.

          Now, one may be able to understand how blind people are likewise able to play chess and improve at it. Once a person learns the pieces and how they move, the brain takes over and replaces the pieces with their directly associated movements / functions and connects with each other to achieve several goals: capturing pieces, gaining advantages, etc., to ultimately achieve checkmate.

          It should now be clear that initial visual stimuli are absolutely necessary for a person to be able to play chess. Next, it should be clear that visual stimuli are not necessary for a person to improve at chess. Finally, it is necessary to note that non-visual improvement cannot be achieved without initial visual stimuli.

orangehonda

I had guessed there were many others who found it easier.  It took me many years, and like golden dog I think I lose something like 400-500 points playing strength (long line tactics are very hard to calculate though in the middle game for me).

There's a player I know who can do blindfold and only loses about 100 points of strength -- and for those who say they were able to do it after only a few months I think it's that kind of player who has a more natural talent for it.  I also agree blindfold play is pretty much a separate skill in that people of the same rating may differ on the # of boards or if they're able to do it at all.

An expert at my club said when he was rated ~1700 he played 4 beginners at once and won all the games... I can literally barely finish 1 game so I can't quite imagine that.  During a real game I do a lot of calculation, he says he does minimal calculation and works with a lot of evaluations and fantasy positions.  I wonder if that's somehow related.

Elubas

I don't really see the motive to learn blindfold (so that you can play w/h other people without a board? lol). I'd rather spend my time on just being good at chess looking at the board. That's hard enough. When you become a GM you're pretty much automatically you're good at blindfold anyway, so I think it's more satisfying to simply be a great chess player than an ok player who's good at blindfold. But yeah, I do think the average player can play decent blindfold w/h practice, because it's just visualization.

artfizz

Does the touch move rule apply in blindfold chess?

Elubas

I thought you just announce your move in blindfold.

Ok, so blindfold can be a fun way to play beginners, but I don't think strong players train at it so much, they would just do those blindfold simuls for fun or for money, and with visualization so good they have to be naturally pretty good at it, wouldn't they?

oinquarki

I hope so.

Genghis_McCann

Do blindfold chess players "flip" the board when playing black?

Elubas

lol, they must have to.

Chess_Enigma
Elubas wrote:

Ok, so blindfold can be a fun way to play beginners, but I don't think strong players train at it so much, they would just do those blindfold simuls for fun or for money, and with visualization so good they have to be naturally pretty good at it, wouldn't they?


Like you I am not sure that blindfold play improves your normal game much, but I do know it improves calculation. A Russian training tecnique is to read a book with out a board. Shirov, Karpov and Petrosian have stated that they did this to improve their calculation. In my short meeting with Shirov when he calculated a line he would occasionaly glance away from the board for a minute or so and then glance back and make a move.

msoewulff

I tried once, we couldnt finish the game.

Cystem_Phailure

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CoachConradAllison

I can play blindfold a bit, maybe 20 or so moves, I have won a game before, to checkmate.

panandh

I can play blindfold for 5 moves Cool

Cystem_Phailure

That's probably about how far I'd get, unless it was one of my common openings.

Genghis_McCann
StairwayToTruth wrote:

they begin to make more connections that allow them to logically see their combinations and responses to their combinations. ...

This all done in the mind  every professional chess player thinks deeply about moves within their minds.....

  You seem to simply “know” where the pieces go and how they move without having to actually picture a knight or a King.

 

Thanks for the insight. I had an experience a week ago that made me think a lot about your post. I had a forced mate in an online game - not blindfold chess -  but it was about seven moves away and my opponent had a number of options with each move. I had played my move and gone to bed, but just before I fell asleep a move that I hadn't previously thought of just popped into my mind. I remember thinking "What if he moves his bishop to F6?"

Now my visualisation skills are just crappy. I can't see more than two or three moves ahead without the pieces that are actually on the board interfering with my visualisation of what the position will be three moves ahead. But I got up, fired up the computer, and sure enough bishop to F6 was a valid defence. When I worked through the combination I still had a forced mate, but had somehow held the position together in my mind and was "playing the game" while I was falling asleep in a way very much like what you suggest - all at a subconscious level. 

It encourages me that this is a skill that I might be able to work on and develop.

         

cbgirardo

I've been playing blindfold chess as long as I've been playing chess (since 9th grade) and I think anyone could do it. I don't think it's particularly difficult. One of my friends and I would play blindfold chess throughout the day when we saw each other, continuing our game from earlier in the day.

Eo____
cbgirardo wrote:

I've been playing blindfold chess as long as I've been playing chess (since 9th grade) and I think anyone could do it. I don't think it's particularly difficult. One of my friends and I would play blindfold chess throughout the day when we saw each other, continuing our game from earlier in the day.


It all depends on the person's level of visual intelligence. Obviously if you have photographic memory playing blindfold chess would be easy.

trysts

Can an average blind person play chess?

MyCowsCanFly

"Can the average person learn to play blindfold chess?"

There doesn't seem to be much reason for me to learn to play blindfolded. As much as I like playing chess, I can usually wait until I'm not blindfolded to play.

mrguy888

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