Chess Will Never Be Solved. Why?

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#1
Chess will be 100% analysed.
I concur with the late GM Sveshnikov that 'modern computers' and 'good assistants' can solve chess in 5 years.

The number of legal, sensible, and relevant positions is much smaller than people used to think.
One trick is to prepare opening positions per ECO code of 26 men only so as to reduce the number of possible positions and so as to slice the giant task in 500 smaller subtasks.

Let now first let the 'modern computer' play the position against itself. We already know from AlphaZero that this leads to a draw. This retrospectively validates all black engine moves: good enough to draw. However, it is no proof yet, as one or more of the white moves may be mistakes.
Let now repeat the process with the top 2 engine moves for white and still the top 1 engine moves for black. Assume the result is a draw again. This validates in retrospect all top 1 black moves: good enough to draw.  This is no proof yet: it might be that in some position both the top 1 and the top 2 white moves are mistakes.
Let now repeat the process with the top 4 white moves. Assume the result is a draw again. This validates all black moves: good enough to draw. It is not a full proof yet: it might be that in some position white top 1, top 2, top 3, and top 4 moves are mistakes. You might extend to top 8 white moves, but very soon you run out of reasonable moves: moves beyond top 4 will lose material in a few moves.

It is absolutely unnecessary to calculate 1 e4 e5 2 Ba6. We know Ba6 is bad.
1 h3 plays no role at all. If black can draw against 1 e4, 1 d4, 1 c4, 1 Nf3, then it will be trivial to demonstrate that black can draw against 1 h3 as well.

Um... I think you copy-pasted that...

Breh... Chess is made by us!

#25
I summarized the findings of another thread.

The opinion of the late GM Sveshnikov:
"Give me five years, modern computers, and good assistants and I will trace all openings to the endgame table base and 'close' chess."
is plausible indeed after looking at facts and figures.

There already is a 3x3 proof of concept of a chess quantum computer.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bikash-Behera/publication/338019071_Design_of_Quantum_Circuits_to_Play_Chess_in_a_Quantum_Computer/links/5dfa899692851c836486137c/Design-of-Quantum-Circuits-to-Play-Chess-in-a-Quantum-Computer.pdf 

The 2021 and 2023 Classical Chess World Championships may be the last.
The future of chess may be chess960 and 15|10 time control.

ummmmmmmm

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#30
There are 20 possible first moves and 20 possible black replies, hence 20 * 20 = 400 to start with, but most of these are junk. The top 2: 1 e4 and 1 d4 and maybe top 4: 1 c4, 1 Nf3 are relevant and of the rest we know that e.g. 1 d3 or 1 Nh3 is no better.

Apart from that there are many transpositions that lead to the same position by different paths, like 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 = 1 Nf3 Nc6 2 e4 e5 = 1 e4 Nc6 2 Nf3 e5 = 1 e3 e6 2 Nf3 e5 3 e4 Nc6 etc.

heh

Yes. Possibilities spread to around 20 moves for black after white plays 1. e4

darghhh

It's kind weird... chess being invented by humans but remains a MYSTERY to humans.  (⊙o⊙) ?

heh

#34
Yes, white has 20 possible first moves and black has 20 possible responses to each of these, but only 2 to 4 white moves 1 e4, 1 d4, 1 c4, 1 Nf3 and only 2 to 4 black responses 1 e4 e5, 1 e4 c5, 1 e4 e6, 1 e4 c6 can be assumed correct.

Moreover, there are many transpositions that lead to the same position.
1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 = 1 Nf3 c5 2 e4

ok

but give me the link first lol

correct

Yes

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