Chess will never be solved, here's why

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MEGACHE3SE

""there is a precise, quantifiable relationship between tempi and material and between material and results" ++ There is. Any master has learned how to convert an advantage of a pawn. As Capablanca asserts you can grab a pawn and lose 2 tempi as black, or lose 3 tempi as white."

thats not proof, we are asking for proof.

hey tygxc, you still havent come forward about missing your calcualtions on cloud computing by a factor of over 100 million.

MEGACHE3SE
QuantumTopologistISBACK wrote:
MEGACHE3SE wrote:

i love how tygxc downvotes posts that show his idiocy most spectacularly, like does he not think that the rest of us dont know its him downvoting?

Yeah lol

His claims are ridiculous.

Especially where he claims that the top GMs have solved chess when they were just making assumptions and never made real formal proofs.

its not even that, hes also assuming that they are talking in the direct context that tygxc wants them to be speaking in. ah yes, fischer complaining about a loss is him making a general statement that chess has an absolute peer reviewed proof of a draw. lmfaooooo

tygxc

@9383

"10^17 claim - no proof" ++ Sqrt (10^37*10/10,000) = 10^17

"engine games were optimal claim"
++ As for the three 1 g4? refutations, they stand as long as nobody presents any white improvement. As for the 104 ICCF World Championship Finals draws I provided proof.

"already proven to be a draw" ++ I provided an inductive as well as a deductive proof.

"1 tempo is worth less than a pawn" ++ Has been demonstrated by centuries of chess play.
1 pawn is enough to win, 1 pawn = 3 tempi. Figures in beginner books.

tygxc

@9388

"fischer complaining about a loss" ++ No he was disappointed after drawing, failing to win.

"making a general statement" ++ His expert opinion, other greats said the same.

"proof of a draw" ++ I presented an inductive as well as a deductive proof.

MEGACHE3SE

""10^17 claim - no proof" ++ Sqrt (10^37*10/10,000) = 10^17"

not a proof, thats a calculation. sorry, try again.

"++ As for the three 1 g4? refutations, they stand as long as nobody presents any white imporovement. As for the 104 ICCF World Championship Finals draws I provided proof."

Are you really trying to say that you drew three mnms from a jar that happened to each be blue, so that proves that every mnm in the jar is blue?

you are so completely unknowledgable in basic math principles that i have to resort to little kiddie analogies.

""1 tempo is worth less than a pawn" ++ Has been demonstrated by centuries of chess play.
1 pawn is enough to win, 1 pawn = 3 tempi. Figures in beginner books."

centuries of chess play isnt a mathematical proof lmfao.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9388

"fischer complaining about a loss" ++ No he was disappointed after drawing, failing to win.

"making a general statement" ++ His expert opinion, other greats said the same.

"proof of a draw" ++ I presented an inductive as well as a deductive proof.

you dont know what an inductive proof is, nor a deductive proof. you provided neither.

MEGACHE3SE

oh look at you contradict yourself more and more "his expert opinion". this isnt a matter of opinion. its been proven or it isnt.

wow, i didnt know that math journals will take an "expert opinion" as a valid method of proof.

what's your highest math proof class btw? im guessing you took 9th grade geometry and that was your highest.

tygxc

@9391

""10^17 claim - no proof" ++ Sqrt (10^37*10/10,000) = 10^17"

"thats a calculation" ++ It is. The 10^37 stems from Gurion.
The 10 is to include promotions to 3 or 4 queens.
The 10,000 stems from inspection of 10,000 Gurion positions.
The square root is for weakly instead of strongly solving.

"Are you really trying to say that you drew three mnms from a jar"
++ No, no randomness is involved. It is chess analysis.

"you are so completely unknowledgable in basic math principles"
++ I know more about math than any here.

"centuries of chess play isnt a mathematical proof"
++ It is accumulated Chess knowledge, allowed in game solving per Prof. van den Herik.

tygxc

@9393

"im guessing" ++ You are guessing very wrong

MEGACHE3SE

"I know more about math than any here."

he says, despite listing "reductio ad absurdum" as a method of math proof despite the fact that it isnt.

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9393

"im guessing" ++ You are guessing very wrong

then what is it. spill.

MEGACHE3SE

"++ No, no randomness is involved. It is chess analysis."

as usual you completely lack the knowledge to understand even basic logic. randomness has nothing to do with the situation.

tygxc

@9392

"you dont know what an inductive proof is, nor a deductive proof" ++ I know, you do not.

"you provided neither" ++ I provided both, you understand neither.

tygxc

@9398

"randomness has nothing to do with the situation"
++ Indeed, that is why an analogy to drawing MNMs from a jar is stupid.

MEGACHE3SE

i provided actual proofs disproving your claims that everyone else on this thread understood and agreed with. not only that, but i showed my proof to other math majors and they all took my side. you really think you are the special one?

MEGACHE3SE

also, you still havent addressed how i suggested the other 10^18 moves that white could do after g4.

MEGACHE3SE

ive even shown a couple of your "proofs" to a published mathematician and he laughed at your stupidity.

tygxc

@9402

"the other 10^18 moves"
++ Suggest one (1) white move that improves on any of the 3 sequences I presented and present a line that does not lose for white. That is how chess analysis works.

tygxc

@9401

"i provided actual proofs"
++ None at all. You proved what? Where?

MEGACHE3SE
tygxc wrote:

@9402

"the other 10^18 moves"
++ Suggest one (1) white move that improves on any of the 3 sequences I presented and present a line that does not lose for white. That is how chess analysis works.

its your proof, you dont get to say "oh you need to suggest a move that draws"

im noticing how you arent addressing how you are literally the laughingstock of people who do math for a living.

you really think i havent been going around to all my math friends and professors and showing them how stupid you are?