Chess will never be solved, here's why

I think optimized is right playforfar is just a troll

But dio also has some reasoning for not liking optimissed

TDKE you're not talking about chess.
Your're being hypocritical. Like BC.
Its obvious.
But unlike you and BC - I won't try to shut you up.
Lets see how long you'll keep being hypocritical.
When I check back again - you'll still be complaining here.
Doing that which you stupidly complain about.
BC 'cured' of that.
Maybe you're both trying to get the forum locked.

Lets see how long you will avoid answering the question for

Why play no chess only talk on forums

Btw he has a diamond account doesn't even play chess that doesn't matter tho

Your throwing the word hypocrite like it means something probably because you know your the hypocrite

Answer the question and I won't annoy you simple

Continue to avoid it I will progressively get more annoying I'm a master at annoyance

I'm not trying to shut you up I'm trying to get you to answer a question

BC maybe you're one of those 'still waiting for answer' idiotic people.
You're going to say tomorrow and next week
'still waiting'.
You've got no conversation and neither does the other new guy.
How to keep a person idiotically repeating his questions in suspense.
Its easy.
You two can add another ten new alt accounts here and all back each other up and you'll still all be 'losing and hypocritical'.
Scrolling back through pages here - neither of you are really talking about the forum subject.
The other new guy who's had an account here for four days apparently just wants to beat up on tygxc. He's another phony.

Yep took 20 min for a troll post🤦... Im disappointed

Again answer the question

Why do you not play any chess only talk on forums

If you think you can win against gen z in a troll war your mistaken

but jimbalter left. He didn't understand why 'weakly solving' is poor terminology. 'Solving' implies strength.
There should be a better phrase for 'weakly solving'.
But I haven't thought of one yet.
'Partial solving' looks a little better.
Everytime a player sets a piece down and accurately calls checkmate - that's 'real solving'. Or when a computer ends a game that way.
Anyway - g4 does not 'lose'.
I don't think its the worst move either.
I disagree with tygxc but that's okay and he's okay.
And 'O' is rightly criticized by others and blocked and exposed.
Others will not be able to shut up people doing so.
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Apparently 1) Na3 is bottom ranked on some lists.
But I think 1) Nh3 could be worse.
1) g4 - the Grob opening can be a weapon against somebody who doesn't know how to play against it.
Maybe its the 'worst move' when its tried against computers.
Or with computer against computer.

@9965

"chess isn't proven to be a draw"
++ Chess is proven to be a draw:
106 draws out of 106 games in the ICCF World Championship Finals.
17 ICCF (grand)masters with engines at 5 days/move average.

Most plausible explanation:
Games with 0 error: 106
Games with 1 error: 0
Games with 2 errors: 0
Games with 3 errors: 0
Games with 4 errors: 0

I am willing to accept the possibility that the distribution might be
Games with 0 error: 105
Games with 1 error: 0
Games with 2 errors: 1
Games with 3 errors: 0
Games with 4 errors: 0

That still leaves 105 perfect games with 0 error and chess being a draw.

Dang it playafar is redirecting he conversation again

why do you not play chess and only troll on forums !!!!?!???!!!!!!

🔫🔫🔫💀💀💀

I don't have any power your right about that but neither do you that means I can be more annoying than you hehehehehe

@Tytxc a draw doesn't mean perfect play and zero innnaccuracies only means the engine agreed with that move I'll wait till a kings gambit comes up when maybe I'll consider that chess is a draw but we need drawable openings that are slightly worse or better for both sides but still drawable

Not equal positions cause an equal position would 100% be a draw

BC you just blew it. Again. Admitting that I'm 'annoying' you.
And without even trying to!
I've now quoted your post so you can't delete it.
Apparently tygxc was waiting for you two to stop trolling so he could continue with the forum subject.

Ok Boomer

@9966

"weakly solving is poor terminology"
++ That is the terminology used in this field of mathematics.

"Partial solving looks a little better." ++ Schaeffer solved Checkers weakly, not 'partially'.

"calls checkmate that's real solving" ++ It is reaching a 7-men endgame table base draw or a prior 3-fold repetition. Chess is a draw.

"g4 does not lose" ++ It does, I showed how.

"I don't think its the worst move either." ++ It is the worst move, also according to AlphaZero.

"1) Na3 is bottom ranked on some lists. But I think 1) Nh3 could be worse."
++ No, all white first moves except 1 g4? are fit to draw.

"1) g4 - the Grob opening can be a weapon against somebody who doesn't know"
++ 1 g4? is a mistake, but at lower levels and/or in fast time controls it does not matter who makes the first mistake, only who makes the last mistake.

Hi @tygxc !
You see my post #9966?
You're doing all right.
Taking on all comers!
Its kind of admirable.
Maybe you'll state whether 1) g4 loses the most against computers and how it does with computer against computer.
I haven't looked it up yet.
But maybe you've done the research.
Alpha Zero says its worst?
Well lets see what the net says.

Playafar

To be clear your the only one annoyed here I have had worse trolls than you

You just think you have power to annoy people you don't just get over yourself go enjoy a board game why would I be annoyed you arnt englishing correctly

And answer my question why do you not play chess only troll on forums

BC - this time I'll skip your post Completely.
Lol!
Its too late. You've already admitted you're 'annoyed'.
Too late BC.

Nah I didn't your just missreading the post

You can continue trolling tho I don't mind

It only exposes yourself more and more

@9969

"a draw doesn't mean perfect play" ++ But 106 draws out of 106 games does.

"zero innnaccuracies only means the engine agreed" ++ I do not count errors by engine evaluation, I count errors by observing final results: 106 draws out of 106 games.

"I'll wait till a kings gambit comes up"
++ Nobody is foolish enough to play King's Gambit in a the ICCF World Championship Finals.

"we need drawable openings that are slightly worse" ++ The ICCF (grand)masters do not choose openings to entertain you, they play openings to become the World Champion.
If you are interested in slightly unbalanced openings, then look at TCEC,
where they impose chosen openings on engines.

"an equal position would 100% be a draw" ++ The initial position is equal and now 100% draw.

This page has 1) g4 doing worst against an h5 reply.
But winning against at least three black replies.
Even against d5.
https://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=2&n=333&ms=g4&ns=333tygxc I couldn't find anything on the net yet as to how 1) g4 does with computers.