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Can anyone find a post of @Optimissed that contains some substantial information about facts relating to the topic of discussion (solving chess) rather than willy-waving?

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Elroch wrote:
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I have repeatedly pointed out the inaccuracies in what @tygxc has posted. I had thought that he took no notice and had become rather frustrated and said as much but, to his credit, he did accept a recent example (a discussion of the number of theoretical errors that could lead to 104 draws) ....

Don't count your chickens.

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Elroch wrote:

Can anyone find a post of @Optimissed that contains some substantial information about facts relating to the topic of discussion (solving chess) rather than willy-waving?

But answer came there none.

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Optimissed wrote:

There's also incontravertible evidence that you have never won an argument with me, which is simply that playerafar believes you have always won every argument you've ever had with me. That's very strong evidence you've never won an argument. Anyone who knows playerafar well will agree.

I now await your response with laugh-buds atingling.

You don't really have any leeway/space to be making fun of other posters, though you've tried your hand at it I'd say half a dozen times in the past day or so?

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DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

There's also incontravertible evidence that you have never won an argument with me, which is simply that playerafar believes you have always won every argument you've ever had with me. That's very strong evidence you've never won an argument. Anyone who knows playerafar well will agree.

I now await your response with laugh-buds atingling.

You don't really have any leeway/space to be making fun of other posters, though you've tried your hand at it I'd say half a dozen times in the past day or so?

You don't think there's anything at all odd about anyone who supports your trolling? They're all regular people, honest, decent, real and so on? And everyone who disagrees with you is delusionary?

I suppose that's an accurate description of what you think or pretend to think. Not trolling must be so unfamiliar to you, that you couldn't stand the build-up of tension in your poor little head. So have you won your argument, in your mind?

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Elroch wrote:

Can anyone find a post of @Optimissed that contains some substantial information about facts relating to the topic of discussion (solving chess) rather than willy-waving?

Basically, I made a better post than you have ever made in your life, a few pages back and you ignored it, so far as I can see. You're the one who isn't contributing and I have no need to jump to your tune, you conceited little so-and-so.

You seem to have the whole team of monkeys here to support you. You even dug Rattigan, who hasn't been seen for months, out of his sarcophagus.

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MARattigan wrote:
Elroch wrote:

Can anyone find a post of @Optimissed that contains some substantial information about facts relating to the topic of discussion (solving chess) rather than willy-waving?

But answer came there none.

That is very possibly because they now know that Elroch is a troll. You are clearly one. Dio is trolling again.

It's always the same. Whenever Elroch takes his insulting behaviour much too far, like he did against tygxc on this thread, and there's a kickback, doesn't matter who from because he's disliked by just about everyone, out comes his little team of monkeys to support him, The entire site knows that's what happens and has happened for years.

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I think it's rather because there isn't one. Can you find one?

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Optimissed wrote:

That is very possibly because they now know that Elroch is a troll. You are clearly one. Dio is trolling again.

It's always the same. Whenever Elroch takes his insulting behaviour much too far, like he did against tygxc on this thread, and there's a kickback, doesn't matter who from because he's disliked by just about everyone, out comes his little team of monkeys to support him, The entire site knows that's what happens and has happened for years.

This is about you...you are the actual convergence point here, not Tygxc, not Elroch, etc. Keep on telling us your innocent narrative about how all these disparate posters are just attacking you out of the blue for no reason and cannot see your brilliance and grand beneficence...

The fact that the truth has never sunk in is mind-boggling. It's been a decade now. If "the entire site" knows your narrative is true, why do you only interact in petty PMs with a few ne'er-do-wells and gossips? Where is your groundswell of righteous justice-seekers carrying you on their shoulders?

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MARattigan wrote:

I think it's rather because there isn't one. Can you find one?

To be clear, it is perfectly ok for @Optimissed to try to answer my question.

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DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

That is very possibly because they now know that Elroch is a troll. You are clearly one. Dio is trolling again.

It's always the same. Whenever Elroch takes his insulting behaviour much too far, like he did against tygxc on this thread, and there's a kickback, doesn't matter who from because he's disliked by just about everyone, out comes his little team of monkeys to support him, The entire site knows that's what happens and has happened for years.

This is about you...you are the actual convergence point here, not Tygxc, not Elroch, etc. Keep on telling us your innocent narrative about how all these disparate posters are just attacking you out of the blue for no reason and cannot see your brilliance and grand beneficence...

The fact that the truth has never sunk in is mind-boggling. It's been a decade now. If "the entire site" knows your narrative is true, why do you only interact in petty PMs with a few ne'er-do-wells and gossips? Where is your groundswell of righteous justice-seekers carrying you on their shoulders?

Course it isn't. You are part of a small number of bullies who work together and are very strongly disliked by most people who know you. So much so that most people avoid all contact or interaction with you. Elroch is the same. A bully, a troll, dishonest, disrespectful to people, blocks people for disagreeing because he doesn't like the stress of being disagreed with.

You on your Covid thread were legendary in the same way. Deliberately trolling your own thread to pick fights with people who disagreed with you, so you had an obviously fake excuse to block them and deny them free speech.

There's no question about whether it's about you or about me. The only people who back you are known trolls who get off on the very temporary rush of occasionally being able to get away with bullying people.

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From where are you getting your statistics?

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?

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Incidentally, you are even implying that when you attack people, PMing them to get their reactions is disreputable. But someone has to show that they care and are on their side, since you go to very great lengths, and this counts for both of you, to isolate people and sweet talk others to get them on your side. That is identical behaviour to that used by psychopaths.

I haven't done so for a while. After Elroch dishonestly blocked harbinger and me, hapless, who is a practising physician, contacted me and explained that he intended never to post on E's threads until we were reinstated. But I feel the same way and will never again add credibility to Elroch's threads by posting on them. Since this has happened, many people have contacted me and told me what they feel about Elroch, so I have no need to contact others to be sure that he is held in disrepute. How many of you are there? Three? Two maybe? Four at the most? And you make out that you're the only sane people on the whole site and everyone who dislikes you is crazy or being unfair to you? You don't need to be told this by a groundswell of opinion. If you weren't scared because you know I'm right, you'd ignore me.

End of conversation so far as I'm concerned.

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Thank God for that at least.

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Optimissed wrote:

Course it isn't. You are part of a small number of bullies who work together and are very strongly disliked by most people who know you. So much so that most people avoid all contact or interaction with you. Elroch is the same. A bully, a troll, dishonest, disrespectful to people, blocks people for disagreeing because he doesn't like the stress of being disagreed with.

You on your Covid thread were legendary in the same way. Deliberately trolling your own thread to pick fights with people who disagreed with you, so you had an obviously fake excuse to block them and deny them free speech.

There's no question about whether it's about you or about me. The only people who back you are known trolls who get off on the very temporary rush of occasionally being able to get away with bullying people.

Don't make me teach you what free speech means yet again...

It's funny how your narrative manages to paint everyone else as the bully when you have been the bull in the china shop for years.

Reality: you have been blocked from many of the longest running and respected threads on the forums. It's not a coincidence. Your behavior is out of line. You want to participate, because these more mature and thoughtful threads appeal to your ego and self-image...but you can't manage to without getting frustrated and blowing a gasket whenever you are not immediately crowned king of the discussion. There's got to be a hundred examples of you unilaterally saying you are the smartest guy in such and such discussion by now...

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Optimissed wrote:

Incidentally, you are even implying that when you attack people, PMing them to get their reactions is disreputable. But someone has to show that they care and are on their side, since you go to very great lengths, and this counts for both of you, to isolate people and sweet talk others to get them on your side. That is identical behaviour to that used by psychopaths.

I haven't done so for a while. After Elroch dishonestly blocked harbinger and me, hapless, who is a practising physician, contacted me and explained that he intended never to post on E's threads until we were reinstated. But I feel the same way and will never again add credibility to Elroch's threads by posting on them. Since this has happened, many people have contacted me and told me what they feel about Elroch, so I have no need to contact others to be sure that he is held in disrepute. How many of you are there? Three? Two maybe? Four at the most? And you make out that you're the only sane people on the whole site and everyone who dislikes you is crazy or being unfair to you? You don't need to be told this by a groundswell of opinion. If you weren't scared because you know I'm right, you'd ignore me.

End of conversation so far as I'm concerned.

This "sweet talking cabal" delusion is going to keep being your downfall. Rest assured, posters have no problem independently coming to the conclusion that you are persona non grata. When you finally admit this to yourself, you might have a chance to do something to change it.

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Dio 'deadly efficient' as usual.
From @Optimissed just now:
"But I feel the same way and will never again add credibility to Elroch's threads by posting on them. "
Pretty hard to post on Elroch's threads if you're blocked from them!!
Hahahaahah.
gringringrin
And O just confirmed my conjectures about his 'PM operations'.
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And regarding the new guy 'BigChess'... BC
he'll want O being blocked and O's trolling and delusions to be 'all about player'.
I had nothing to do with it!
Lol!
I wasn't even posting in either forum when O got himself blocked in them!
And I didn't even know Dio's Covid forum existed when O got blocked there for trolling.
I haven't seen the trolling posts that O got himself blocked for in Elroch's forums.
And I don't know exactly what posts caused the chess.com staff to mute him on multiple occasions. Haven't seen them.
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But O's patterns are obvious.
And I did see him foolishly post his chess game in Elroch's evolution forum and get a warning!
the world according to BC: 'Hey player - O doing that and getting himself muted and blocked is about You !!')
happy
O (that's @Optimssed. 'Opti') also just confirmed what I said about Harbinger and HaplessFool ...
I can now post 'for' BC in advance ... 'player - Opti getting himself muted and blocked and those other people is about You being Aggressive and Political! '
Should I be honored?
Or honoured?

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MARattigan wrote:
Elroch wrote:
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I have repeatedly pointed out the inaccuracies in what @tygxc has posted. I had thought that he took no notice and had become rather frustrated and said as much but, to his credit, he did accept a recent example (a discussion of the number of theoretical errors that could lead to 104 draws) ....

Don't count your chickens.

TKDE 
There it is 
Its on the previous page.
Easy to scroll back and for you to find what you want to.

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okay tygxc is no longer spreading misinformation about chess/logic, so im done with this forum.

message me if tygxc starts stuff again.