chess.com etiquette

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no it is not considered good manners. in online chess there is no excuse for a silly mistakes. since you have 24 hours or more to make a move. think before submitting. look at the whole board.

I make mistake myself and don't expect a draw. I should have paid more attention.

in otb games players play too fast and hang a queen. those do not deserve a draw they rewarded the lesson to slow down and pay attention by losing.

Some people may give them a draw if they made a mouseslip, however I am not sure they would be so willing to give it if someone asked for it.

If chess were played like this, every game would end in a draw.

Unless it's an obvious mouse slip then no I would never give someone a draw. Asking for a draw when you are obviously lost is just obnoxious.

Thanks for the information.  I had initially refused the request and then the person in question got rather snotty.  That's what made me think that perhaps I had violated some standard rule of behavior.

Not at all, you play to win,  if no one made mistakes, all games would end in draw so its silly to ask for a draw when someone finally slipps up. 

I think it's good sportsmanship in the case of an obvious mouseslip, but no obligation.

That is entirely up to you.  I played in the Under 2000 section at the recent National Open in Vegas.  In the last round i was up the exchange, and passed pawn, and offered my opponent a draw.  It was my fathers day gift to him. 

LOL I do this all the time and then resign after asking for a draw as a joke!

I have had this too, just not here on chess.com.

Talking about ethics in the game, I am staggered by the amount of poor sportmanship in the game. I get frustrated by opponents actions and think there needs to be a stronger penalty instead of 'he may have violated'. There should be a strong penalty so that everyone knows that certain behaviours will (not may) be tolerated. How? by decreasing their rating significantly.

Its the safety, and annonymity of the internet. 

Poor sports do nothing to help themselves. Losing, with the right attitude, maximizes your opportunity to learn from your mistakes. Similarly, winning with the right attitude also, maximizes your opportunities to learn from your mistakes--even in won games you have probably made several, or at least have made some weaker moves than you could have. Chessplayer's etiquette--respecting your opponenet, treathing him as you would wish to be treated--is all part of that.

I don't think that is "etiquette."  A player should learn from their blunders ("silly mistakes") and not make them again.  It is being an enabler if you allow it.

If we are talking about an unrated, friendly game, that's a bit different.

I had a live 30 min. game in which I had a mouseslip, and my opponent pounced on it before I could type "mouseslip." Once I did, he asked what I would like to do about it. I resigned, and we played another game.

Assuming we are talking about an obvious mouseslip...

I would try to make a move that "ignores" the mouseslip. If no such move exists it is always a bit hard - if it was such an obvious draw before, I probably already offered a draw and it was refused so my opponent is just being obnoxious and I don't feel like making him any gifts, and if it wasn't then draw by agreement is just killing an interesting game where either player may have had an advantage.

witney wrote:

Is it considered just good manners to agree to a draw if one player makes a bad move then requests a draw on the basis that he/she just made a silly mistake?  A draw typically costs the higher rated player a few points, but that is probably no big deal.  What do others do?

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It is not considered good etiquette. It is, quite honestly, considered foolhardy.

If it helps you sleep better, or feel lije your a better person, offer that draw. Just realize, 99% of your opponents won't do the same for you.

Ethics are a good, good thing. But this is taking them to an absurd extreme.

a mouseslip is part of online chess...get over it...no draws