batgirl wrote:
Now that's weird. He must have been playing with Canadan Rules.
In Canada, we actually play chess with the same rules as Fizzbinn.
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that my jedi mind tricks can help me win
and you can only promote to a capture piece, en passant is made up, and so is castling. if you touch a piece you have to move that piece, if you move it and remove your hand your turn is finished and the move counts.
Oct 14, 2010
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rigamagician, I have a couple of favorite Canadian players, Lawrence Day being high on that list - here's one of my favorite Lawrence Day games:
batgirl wrote:
rigamagician, I have a couple of favorite Canadian players, Lawrence Day being high on that list - here's one of my favorite Lawrence Day games:
Amazing checkmate. The castle-mate was quite amusing.
cwwiss wrote:
An International master I knew still made the shape of an L when moving his knight..perhaps he didn't know any better and nobody told him!
Oh, that's cute.
that was a crazy game for black lol castle mate was clever
I have run into a number of people who didn't think you could castle if the rook was under attack, or if the rook moved through a square attacked by the other side.
Oct 14, 2010
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goldendog wrote:
There was a guy in High School who insisted that since he had previously checked me that I lost my castling privileges.
We went back and forth until I finally prevailed but at the end it seemed that he had a brother who could "checkmate me in four moves."
tell him hes retarded and that thats impossible against e6 f6 d6. which no one is retarded enough to do. but to beat him? time and place
chessroboto wrote:
rednblack wrote:
A few people I know think that you have to announce check when you deliver it to an opponent, or you lose.
I've seen the perfect lesson (from Blitz and Bullet) to correct such mistakes: take the opponent's king with the checking piece!
It's also a forceful way to teach a beginner to look for threats immediately after an opponent's move instead of blaming somebody for it.
I should clarify. Player A checks player B but fails to say check. Player B then claims a win since "check" wasn't announced.
rednblack wrote:
chessroboto wrote:
rednblack wrote:
A few people I know think that you have to announce check when you deliver it to an opponent, or you lose.
I've seen the perfect lesson (from Blitz and Bullet) to correct such mistakes: take the opponent's king with the checking piece!
It's also a forceful way to teach a beginner to look for threats immediately after an opponent's move instead of blaming somebody for it.
I should clarify. Player A checks player B but fails to say check. Player B then claims a win since "check" wasn't announced.
Were you playing Uno? That's how you play that game.
notlesu, the logic is very basic mi amigo.
The pinned Knight in question is still exerting an attacking force on the square in question. Whether the Knight is pinned or not is irrelevant, his attack on the square is still there. The King cannot move to an attacked square and place himself in check, but all other pieces can move to this attacked square (because although they are still being attacked they are not "in check"). I believe the whole issue is in realizing that a piece does not have to move to that square in order to exert an attacking force on it.
BTW batgirl, there are no "Canadian rules" in chess. But I did like this topic that you introduced.
One American guy I played OTB was not aware of the "castling rule", nor "touch move rule"...maybe he was playing by American rules 
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Oct 14, 2010
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BTW batgirl, there are no "Canadian rules" in chess. But I did like this topic that you introduced.
umm... that was a joke.
Italians used to play by Italian Rules (free castling, no en passant and other things)
Gwystlo, the question of whether a pawn which moves two places can cause checkmate even though it is subject to being captured en passant is interesting.
I do not know what the rules say about that.
To me, it seems that the pawn should be able to capture. However, I can see the "Sorry, you are in mate, game is over" argument, too. Does FIDE have a codified rule for this situation? If so, could someone link it?
notlesu, the logic behind a pinned piece controlling a square and keeping the king off of it is this : Let say the white knight is pinned, but controls the c8 square. If black moves his king to the c8 square, on the theory that "If that knight moves, I can capture his king", then what does white do? Captures the black king.
If you were allowed to move into check, that's exactly how it would play out. The white king would be subject to being taken on the next move, but the game would end when the black king was captured.
Of course, the actual rule is that you can't move into check and can't make a move which leaves your king in check. And black doesn't get to ignore that rule while arguing "Well, I'm not really in check because if he moves that piece, his king would be under attack".
I always viewed the pin thing as "The kings are the commanders of the battles, so if one king dies, then he can't command his piece to attack the king which was left open by his capture."
As far as the en passant checkmate goes, the obvious answer is IT'S NOT CHECKMATE.
Is that checkmate? No, because white can capture the piece that's putting the king in check. Same goes for en passant. Claiming that en passant to get you out of checkmate isn't valid is like saying that the rook in the above diagram can't capture the rank 1 rook because it's checkmate and the game is over.
Oct 14, 2010
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#37
I agree with Firefalcon. The en passant problem is intriguing, but I think the official ruling was wrong. The game ain't over till it's over.
There is the famous story of Victor Korchnoi during the 1978 match against Karpov. Korchnoi called the referee over and asked him if he can castle.
There was a guy in High School who insisted that since he had previously checked me that I lost my castling privileges.
We went back and forth until I finally prevailed but at the end it seemed that he had a brother who could "checkmate me in four moves."