Help regarding "My System"

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kohai never saw this....nope, never ~ IT DIDN'T EXIST! 

Lalala *walks away nonchalantly whistling a jolly and somewhat suspicious tune*

Alright, by now the book titled "My System" should be at my house. It is the 21 century edition. Are there any thoughts on how to go through the book? Start to finish, this chapter, than that chapter, or should I just plug away and hope for the best? :P

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Yeah, I just finished reading page 3 and clicked for the next page and Zorrofox was no more. Shame.

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lol - nice way to start this thread. if anything, chess.com deleting zorro's thread only proves his point...

i mean... as for "My System", obviously you should open in random chapters and hope for the best!
it's, like... uh... a classic revolutionary book or something. surely anything you do with it should do you good.

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I agree with Phylar on this.  I was also involved with that discussion and it was quite interesting.

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closing an account deletes all content originating from that account, and deleting a second account of a banned member is business as usual.

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Yeah, can't say one way or another whether he was right in any of this unproven points. But pointing out that you were banned probably isn't the smartest way of going about it. Er I mean, flipping to random pages when buying an old but well thought of book likely isn't a good way to go about it! a-ha...

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Well, I can say that he was wrong in arguing that the site breached its contract in not giving a refund.  Two things on that:

1.  He didn't even ask for a refund, and

2.  The site terms/conditions plainly state "No refunds."

He would have been, better arguing that he was "unfairly" or "arbitrarily banned" than arguing the refund part.

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yeah - the right way is to submit a ticket under the banned account (?) where you can be properly ignored (?)
not sure what's the policy here.

so um... you should probably, like, go from start to finish, then. i mean, i think that's the way, like, that most people usually do it... and, you know, "most people" are usually right, obviously.

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Phylar wrote:

Yeah, can't say one way or another whether he was right in any of this unproven points. But pointing out that you were banned probably isn't the smartest way of going about it. Er I mean, flipping to random pages when buying an old but well thought of book likely isn't a good way to go about it! a-ha...

Well, on the most basic level, he did "prove" his points, since 1) there were no other statements or evidence to contradict anything he said, and 2) there was no evidence that he was being untruthful, meaning a) outside evidence of untruthfulness, or b) conflicts or contradictions in material portions of his own "story."

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Guys, can we please get back to the OP main point - He was asking for assistance in My System.

 

Alright, by now the book titled "My System" should be at my house. It is the 21 century edition. Are there any thoughts on how to go through the book? Start to finish, this chapter, than that chapter, or should I just plug away and hope for the best? :P

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Yeah guys! GOD (hypothetical, I swear!), ONLY Love bothered to answer my question at all! Oh and Love, it isn't that I don't trust you but uh...I, er...you are a wonderful person! :D *looks around*

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my system is highly outdated.

however, some of the things in it are quite good. for example, he explains very simply the power of the rook on the seventh rank, passed pawns etc..

the only problem is that he gives a simple rule, then uses an extremely complicated position to illustrate his point, for example, like the example for king activity. surely, the important thing is to be able to intuitively see the moves, not just knowing a general principle.

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Would you suggest I also purchase (now what what it...) Yusupov's nine book chess series to cover any and all bland points that My System neglects?

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Nimzovitch's famous tome is one of the most frustrating books I ever read.

I was an attempt by him to explain Chess for opening to endgame. In most ways, it did not succeed, but if you have the patience, you will find Chess gold. But it is mixed up with lots of debris.

A lot of his book is a whinge about how misunderstood he was by the Chess world. His personality was very lopsided, and his explanations often extremely tedious.

It is time someone rewrote it, as the man was in many ways a genius, and he did have a big picture about Chess. 

He was not called the stormy petrel for nothing. A great man, but massively flawed, as is his book.  

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Just start on page 1 and have your chessboard in front of you.

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From what I heard it is more geared towards advanced players, so people like us would have a hard time understanding it

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Phylar wrote:

Would you suggest I also purchase (now what what it...) Yusupov's nine book chess series to cover any and all bland points that My System neglects?

oh yeah, yusupov's books are priceless.

but don't buy everything at once. start with build up your chess vol 1. work through every damn thing. savor it. if and when you finish, get vol 2. and so on.

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pdve wrote:

 surely, the important thing is to be able to intuitively see the moves, not just knowing a general principle.

Is it possible to teach someone to intuitively see the moves? If it is, it couldn't be easier than teaching a general principle.

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Sunshiny wrote:
pdve wrote:

 surely, the important thing is to be able to intuitively see the moves, not just knowing a general principle.

Is it possible to teach someone to intuitively see the moves? If it is, it couldn't be easier than teaching a general principle.

you may be right.

however, there is another school of thought which holds that the only way to learn chess is to see actual moves in actual positions which we are reminded of when playing actual games.

btw, i don't want to argue too much with you because i know you are a strong player.

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pdve wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
pdve wrote:

 surely, the important thing is to be able to intuitively see the moves, not just knowing a general principle.

Is it possible to teach someone to intuitively see the moves? If it is, it couldn't be easier than teaching a general principle.

you may be right.

however, there is another school of thought which holds that the only way to learn chess is to see actual moves in actual positions which we are reminded of when playing actual games.

btw, i don't want to argue too much with you because i know you are a strong player.

Thanks for the compliment, but i don't think my playing ability has anything to do with this. We're just exchanging ideas here.

@OP - I don't think you could go wrong with going from start to finish. There might be better ways if maybe you wanted to focus on specific aspects of your game first, though that's no guarantee that it will be better.