uhohspaghettio wrote:
why can't there be adult tournament for adults... ie. no young people allowed.
Sounds kinky.
Disrespectful chess children?
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FPSDetroitman wrote:
Does anyone notice when they go to chess tournaments or chess events that sometimes kids are disrespectful to adults or others ? I was in a tournament today and this kid who is about 8 or 9 and rated about 1900 came up to adults playing and started to annoy them by saying what moves/mates they missed and so on. Then when they ask him to leave he gets a smart mouth. I seen this go on the entire afternoon. Additionally, children seem to get away with talking to others about the current chess game during the game. Maybe it is just my club that experiences this. While I respect the amount of work it takes to be a good chess player I do expect them to have some sort of manners as well.
Some young kids, especially young kids who spend too much time playing chess, lack the ability to put themselves in another's position. Next time you play that person, tell him all of his mistakes. Hopefully, he'll be offended enough to figure out why you don't like it, but not offended enough to start crying.
Did you even attempt to talk to the kid, their parents, the tourney director or anybody about it? Or did you just quietly take it so you could complain here?
oinquarki wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:
why can't there be adult tournament for adults... ie. no young people allowed.
Sounds kinky.
Adult Rated Tournament?
May 22, 2011
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It's not always the kids.
I saw this 17 year old at this tournament(not sure if it still classifies as a kid anymore), rated 2050, and he blitzed away first place from a 70 year old, rated only a hundred points more. At the award ceremony, this old man, who's played more than 1000 tournaments, starts cursing this kid out and accusing him of cheating.
It even happened to me once, somewhat off the chessboard too. I played this little 7 year old kid, one of the top 7 year olds in the country at 1700, and in our first game he crushed me, rated about 1600 at the time. The kid is nice, polite and excellent at chess. He gave his dad something nice to brag about. In the next tournament, I was prepared for him. In the second round of that tournament, my brother, 1500, drew with him and his dad, visibly upset, told me right before that the kid and I were to play that his game with my brother was luck and that I would get crushed again. I won and the dad was upset for the rest of the day, even so much as yelling at another kid.
woodshover wrote:
Did you even attempt to talk to the kid, their parents, the tourney director or anybody about it? Or did you just quietly take it so you could complain here?
It wasnt me that was getting smart mouthed by the kid. One time however a boy was discussing his game while it was going on and I told him that it was against the rules to do that.
Parents who manage to get a child into organized competition of any kind are insufferable.
Parents are often worse than the kids.
May 22, 2011
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ivandh wrote:
Parents who manage to get a child into organized competition of any kind are insufferable.
Getting your kids into competition is fine. There is nothing wrong with that. But I think I know what your talking about. Its the few parents per "sport group" (e.g. at a soccer game, baseball game or even.. a chess tournament) that give the rest of us parents bad names. We are all familiar with the dad or mom that turn into screaming lunatics because they felt that their lil "Johnny" was not thrown out at first and take it out on the ump or they are way over bearing with their kid and take it out on lil Johnny. Sigh....
Unfortunately, we have these in scholastic chess too. Parents though are not even allowed in the playing hall during the rounds at our monthly Polk County chess tournys. This has taken care of most "parental" problems.
lol... Remember what they did in Searching for Bobby Fischer?... Same thing.
infinex wrote:
It's not always the kids.
At the award ceremony, this old man, who's played more than 1000 tournaments, starts cursing this kid out and accusing him of cheating.
Same here. I stopped playing at my local club because of the insufferable immaturity displayed by some of the adults. One 16 y.o. boy regularly beat me and had great manners. One of the adults playing him once realized he had made a blunder and wanted to take his move back. The 16 year old rightly said no, whereupon the 55 year old adult had a hissy fit and swept the pieces from the board.
Nice kids probably grow into nice adults. I've always had this naive idea that chess was a gentleman's game but a lot of people I've met proved me wrong.
I guess this means my club is relatively mature; Odd.
Or else they're all depraved lunatics and you've just gotten used to them.
Also likely.
May 22, 2011
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Tactickle wrote:
I've noticed it too. I have kids, and the oldest ones are chess kids. A lot of the other kids are so pushy in skittles games that my kids don't want to play them.
As an adult I would never tolerate an opponent heckling me and picking apart my moves in a demeaning way. I would simply leave the board if it came to that.
But seriously, kids are the same as ever. It is the parents nowadays who have changed.
Very nicely put.
I don't know about the rest of you, but at times, having the responsibilities of a child sounds like kind of a good gig.
Flamma_Aquila wrote:
Just tell the parents that you would appreciate it if they would control their contraceptive mishaps before you are compelled to perform an extremely late term abortion.
lol...lol...lol... Nice! lol...
SZ.
In my experience, most of the children at chess events are like any children anywhere else (no better and no worse). The obnoxious few, however, seem to stand out. I agree with others here that their over-indulgent parents are the root cause. I am reading the Bobby Fischer biography, "Endgame," and speculate that he might have been one of the more obnoxious in his early playing days. Could it be that the future chess world champion is among those who get on our nerves at tournaments today?
1pawndown wrote:
In my experience, most of the children at chess events are like any children anywhere else (no better and no worse). The obnoxious few, however, seem to stand out. I agree with others here that their over-indulgent parents are the root cause. I am reading the Bobby Fischer biography, "Endgame," and speculate that he might have been one of the more obnoxious in his early playing days. Could it be that the future chess world champion is among those who get on our nerves at tournaments today?
Actually I don't think he was annoying. I have not read the book but the author interview on NPR suggests otherwise. The author of the book recounted one incident where a young Bobby had to tell an adult kibitzer to quiet down. Again, I have not read the biography.
Children and adults do not have the same "rights" and they also don't have the same " responsibilities " .
Agreed. I feel like since its a chess tournament and they might be higher rated then some adults they have some sort of power over them.