Do you believe in Freedom of speak?

In PC Paradise you can't have an argument for an opinion, all is relative.

depends on what you mean by freedom of speech. if it includes hate speech then no. 

Can I be free to speak about your grammar, Cubronzo?

Oh boy.

i define hate speech as where you you speak out strongly against a large group of people for a reason that is not based off of an individuals specific actions. for example 'Jews are bad' falls under this category because all Jews do different things therefore you say that is bad. something like 'rapists are bad' doesn't fall under this because the individual action that's hated is rape.

no if you read my example in reply to chump Davis you can see that saying chess players are bad doesn't fall under hate speech this can be debated. saying all jews are bad can't be debated because they're isn't an action your hating against.

Oh boi

saying something like 'your an idiot' isn't hate speech because it's against an individual and the reason someone would say that is because they have something against the specific individual that can't apply to anyone else. supporting something isn't ate speech unless what your supporting is hate speech against a large group of people like the Nazi regime. capitalism isn't hating against anyone. it disagrees with communism but disagreeing with anything isn't hate speech. i disagree with vegans but i don't hate them i don't think all vegans are bad people or have a bad effect on the world. i'm actually a friend with a vegetarian 

i never said that people should not be allowed to spout hate speech i merely say that it shouldn't be classed under free speech.  

Some people classify disagreement as "hate". I am all in for voicing different opinions so long as you aren't abusing anyone else with it. Societal problems are not the same as Ideological problems, and we have more problems with our ideologies which in turn affects society, especially when you use speech as a tool to control how people think, what they should and shouldn't think.

When you condemn ideology you limit the amount of space in which people are able to operate.

what i meant by that comment is that people who say such things shouldn't be considered as good people but instead as ignorant and a detriment to our society. people who spout hate speech should be considered bad people regardless of the topic. also i think you should look at what your trying to class as free speech. your saying that if someone says 'what's the point in keeping the lazy fat wogs alive, they're all bastards.' should be treated the same as someone who says 'everyone has equal opportunities in life and it's wrong that people take them away from people.'?

note to mods: i don't mind you censoring the word wog and bastard however i do not wish for the whole comment to be deleted.

not sure about America but in Britain there is such a thing as a hate crime. i also think that freedom of speech is defined differently in both of our contrary. in Britain you can't just say what the hell you want to whoever you want. an example of the differences in hate crime is that in Gainesville, Florida where Terry Jones burnt a Koran and wasn't prosecuted (i think there was a fuss but no prosecution. however Andrew Ryan in Britain was charged for 70 days for religiously aggravated harassment and the theft of the Koran. Britain takes hate crimes much more seriously.

You cannot simply say "Hate is bad. Ban hate." because sometimes "hate" is necessary to say. Verbal abuse/bullying is a different thing though. You can't simply ban all negative opinions.

when people say hate speech or hate crime they actually mean 'racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic and other crime/ speech.