Do you show mercy?

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JackRoach
BroiledRat wrote:
No mercy.

No one has ever shown me any when I mouse slip in a game ending manner.

And that is because I deserve to lose for my carelessness.

Chess is not a merciful game, it is just about as ruthless as a board game can be.

Besides Monopoly maybe.

AussieMatey

Next game, purposely blunder your Queen very early on. Then hit the "Draw offered" and message, "Oh man, I can't believe I did that. Will you take a draw, c'mon man, I'm sure you will". Then see what happens . . . . . . . . . .  happy.png

sholom90
chessPlatypus01 wrote:

i show mercy, wheneveri have 1 move checkmate, i decide to go for the 3 move checkmate

Is that mercy?  Or prolonging the agony and torturing your opponent ? ;-)

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As for the original question: it all depends on context.  Is it a learning game?  Just sparring?  Playing a friendly against a friend?

If it's not one of those situations, I pretend it's like one of the puzzles here -- I challenge myself to go for the most efficient win possible.  I'm here to learn how to play better.

(I will say, however, I've met some really nice folks here.  I had some time issues in one game -- it was a daily game, and my opponents was slightly ahead, but I was going to be away from the computer for over 24 hours.  My opponent -- who was rated 250 higher than me -- simply said: "hey, we could call this a draw and set up a new game if you want"  I was pleasantly (and very) surprised as his generosity (and we worked out another solution).  I was so impressed that I declined.  I ended up losing, but, wow, what a nice opponent!)

Infinite_Blitz

Especially not against people who rematch me or play some dirty trick on me

Jenium
Laskersnephew wrote:

The whole concept of "mercy" is goes against the very nature of chess. Unlike most other games, in chess you can absolutely dominate your opponent, making one great move after another, only to lose the game instantly with one terrible blunder! That's how chess works. It's a great game, but a cruel one. But we own our victories--and our defeats! We, and we alone get the credit for our good moves, and we live with the results of our mistakes. 

The only exceptions I can think of is when you are playing with a child, or a novice. That's not really a competitive chess game

I agree. Giving presents is against the spirit of chess. After all it is just a game. And in a tournament this might also impact the results of others.

Seppppppy

bad sportsmanship

Nennerb

Mercy is giving them a quick, easy checkmate, such as premoving a 2 rook checkmate. No mercy would be trapping the opponent's king and checkmating the opponent after making an extra 5 queens.

PhamtomMenace

A lot of people are missing the context here. My opponent was 100% winning, and made the most painfully obvious blunder and now I am winning. I am of course not going to draw for just any blunder. It's the fact that I shouldn't have won and I would never win games like this at my level. In response to some of you: yes, people have offered me draws before for a winning-to-losing blunder I made!

JackRoach
PhamtomMenace wrote:

A lot of people are missing the context here. My opponent was 100% winning, and made the most painfully obvious blunder and now I am winning. I am of course not going to draw for just any blunder. It's the fact that I shouldn't have won and I would never win games like this at my level. In response to some of you: yes, people have offered me draws before for a winning-to-losing blunder I made!

My opponents almost never do that, unless I say that I do.

 

So, occasionally (about as often as it happens to me,) I offer a draw if they make a bad mouseslip or something. But not a blunder, that's on them.

PhamtomMenace

A lot of you are saying no, but if they mouse slip, then yes. For my specific scenario, that's basically a yes.

Laskersnephew

"" My opponent was 100% winning, and made the most painfully obvious blunder and now I am winning"

Yes! That is how chess works! If you make a terrible blunder you lose.

"It's the fact that I shouldn't have won "  NO! You should have won. That's what happens when your opponent makes a terrible blunder in a winning position. .Let me ask you, what happens when you make a horrible blunder in a winning position?

Chess_Player_lol

on a casual game, i think it is fine

but in a tournament its unsportsmanship and unfair to others

PhamtomMenace

@Laskersnephew that's a fine way of thinking and I respect that. Of course, I don't expect my opponent to do anything for me just because I go from winning to losing. I only bring this topic up because my opponent blunders right in front of my face when the game is arguably over.

NorthernGoshawk

NO

JackRoach
Chess_Player_lol wrote:

on a casual game, i think it is fine

but in a tournament its unsportsmanship and unfair to others

I agree. Even if you're playing a 5-year-old in an OTB tourny and they cry after blundering, I don't think it's fair to resign or offer a draw.

PhamtomMenace

Ok it's just an online game. I'd obviously think differently if prizes or OTB rating was involved.

JackRoach
PhamtomMenace wrote:

Ok it's just an online game. I'd obviously think differently if prizes or OTB rating was involved.

Wait, was the game you posted rated?

Laskersnephew

@PhantomMenace: Your sympathetic nature does you credit! I also feel sorry for an opponent who destroys a well-played game with a single horrendous blunder. I’ve done it myself, so a certainly know how much it hurts! In a casual game, I suppose it makes no difference if you offer a draw following your opponent’s losing blunder, but in a tournament game it would be completely unacceptable, because the half-point you are generously giving away might affect the tournament standings, so it’s not just a personal matter. It’s not really your half-point to give away.

But even in a casual game, are you really doing your opponent a favor? It sounds a little cruel, but it may be that the pain your opponent experiences when throwing away a great game because of a single moment of inattention will do more to help him become a stronger player, while your generous draw offer teaches him nothing!

PhamtomMenace

@JackRoach yes the game was rated. I was going to win rating points even with a draw.

uri65

In a rated game I will never ever agree for a draw if I got a winning position because my opponent has blundered. Same goes for a mouse slip. I will also never ask for a draw in a reversed situation.

With blunders it's obvious - even if he had a winning position it means nothing if he couldn't win or draw. Game is decided by checkmate, not by who had winning position at some moment during the game.

Regarding mouse slips - they are 100% responsibility of the player. They happen because: 1) he is sloppy; 2) he is too fast; 3) he uses drag-and-drop; 4) his mouse is in bad condition; 5) he is playing on a small smartphone touchscreen.

No mercy for blunders and mouse slips - mine or his - is just the most simple and clear policy for these situations.

Lichess has takebacks because they can be very handy when playing unrated training game. But Lichess also gives you the possibility to totally disable takebacks in the preferences.