Do you think chess and mathematics are related?

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SmyslovFan wrote:

If you ask Railich or any other computer programmer of chess, they will undoubtedly say that chess is can be described entirely in mathematical terms. They say this because they have succeeded in doing so.

 The game is obviously immensely complex and it unlikely ever to be solved completely. But the discussion of whether chess and mathematics are related has been definitively concluded.

unfortunately, computers don't know they're playing chess at all, they don't enjoy the game, say gg, say "haha wot a patzer", shake hands, nothing!

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Hey kitty! Have you just described some of the people in these forums.

Just when Smyrnoff thought there was nothing else to talk about.

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i believe i have, Stevie!!!  cripes! you're on the ball today! (i mean the wool of course)

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I thought only kitties chased woolen balls...Ye my profile views have gone up 10% since i started being cheeky again.I've even got two new freinds i didn't even know existed...Shit i hope they don't block me.

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There is nowhere you cannot go and nothing that cannot be attained with cheek in sufficient-quantity.

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Shy bairns get nowt!

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Only so much as they both use the left hemisphere.  I find it interesting that far more computer programmers play Go(wei-qi) than I generally see playing chess.  Why is this?  Maybe because unlike chess you cannot number crunch to find the best move?  Or maybe because the combinations are so deep mathematically that there is no way chess can ever compete in the sheer numbers of moves possible.

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So do you number crunch when playing chess?

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Stevie65 wrote:

So do you number crunch when playing chess?

While I'm watching seventeen games in a tournament hall, I'm calculating the possible ELO changes with each move on each chessboard.

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PLAYING Chess! not standing around drinking coffee

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Ziryab wrote:

Stevie65

So do you number crunch when playing chess?

While I'm watching seventeen games in a tournament hall, I'm calculating the possible ELO changes with each move on each chessboard

Please write that is a joke. Otherwise, I'm going to think that you count the granules of sand when at a beach.

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You can play decent chess (USCF A Class) without number crunching or "calculating."

1) Positional judgment, 2) An eye for combinations, and 3) Ability to calculate are the "Three Fishes" of Kotov's, Play Like a Grandmaster.

But you only need the first two fish to get into the USCF A Class.

Simple.

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did someone say "fish" ??

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CalamityChristie wrote:

did someone say "fish" ??

+10  Laughing

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OK!  Lets calculate this problem..Tell me where you saw this fish.

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My cat appreciated that, Stevie! Cool

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is there a math professor or scientist that has a formula for the best move?
I think the tricky part is that pieces can move up and down. Knights are very tricky to calculate since they move in a strange way seen from a math prospective.
personally I would imagine that it is impossible to make the formular since there are so many conditions are factors that math formular cannot handle

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A more pertinent topic would be "which fields of mathematics are most closely related to chess".

Someone who is really good at geometry and spatial relations and abstract maths will also do well in chess.

It seems that too many people here equate mathematics with arithmetic.

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Math!!

I love math.

I'm horrible at chess.

Math is not significantly related to chess. Q.E.D. LaughingTongue Out