FIDE, Freestyle Chess, and the Future of the Game

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shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

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DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

That's right. They can take some points away from the people who are winning unconscionable amounts of them and use them to provide a respectable rating to those who are struggling just to get by.

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Aaahahaha, I know ur kidding. Good one. I wasn't sure at the start.

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DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

You're cartoonishly dumb

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OnyxOrca wrote:
DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

You're cartoonishly dumb

I feel like you're putting us both down with that comment

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shadowtanuki wrote:
DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

That's right. They can take some points away from the people who are winning unconscionable amounts of them and use them to provide a respectable rating to those who are struggling just to get by.

you are too. How do I have the misfortune of seeing an anti-wokeist and an idealist in one forum?

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shadowtanuki wrote:
OnyxOrca wrote:
DreamscapeHorizons wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.

Equitable outcomes?? So just GIVE everybody the same # of points. Mmmkay, got it.

You're cartoonishly dumb

I feel like you're putting us both down with that comment

good catch

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Well, I think there should be a universal basic rating, and a limit on how many points you can earn beyond that. Who really needs to have a rating over 1800? It's just greed that would motivate somebody to hoard rating beyond that point.

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I hope you're joking, but I'm just gonna unfollow this forum before you say something even more dumb than that.

Focus that energy on actual politics, cus you might be a half-decent leftist if you swapped rating for income

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I actually thought about making a thread questioning whether chess was a force for good in the world. It seems like it only exists still today, in its commercial aspect, to further the economic interests of a class of people who already have sufficient leisure to devote their lives to mastering a game.

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I can't say FIDE is well run, simply because I don't know. However it appears to me that this new organisation is more about money and power than improving on the FIDE model. As such it appears to be a vanity project and whatever FIDE's flaws that the new organisation is no great shakes as a replacement.

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I'd love to participate in otb freestyle events. It would be good to have a separate rating system of course. I'm sure somebody must've compiled all the known results of FR/960/freestyle events over the years and made a rating/ranking system from the results. I haven't seen it though.

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When will fide ultimately give in. Soon, 5 years or never?

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It's not the business of fide to stick their nose into the freestyle events that Carlsen is involved in. They aren't the slave master. They don't own the chess players. People are free to do as they choose.

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The fact that they choose to flipping the script doesn't benefit their reputation in the end. They should adapt to the times and stop with the traditional Karpov Kasparov 85 mindset.

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Yeah..... what he said.

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The game format itself I couldn't care less about, just because it's the same board and pieces, it's not chess. Like changing playing hand in tennis, it might be "interesting", but does not relate, or contribute, at all to the progression / development of the sport / game.

Moreover, the amount of (corporate) pushing, creating an illusion of hype, with this format, sickens me.

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Freestyle Chess offers more variety, new landscapes and new experiences. That top players are playing it with big money and enjoying adds legitimacy and prestige to this new game invented by Fischer. For me Double Freestyle where white and black have different starting lineup is the Ultimate Chess Variant.

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960^2 × 16 = 14,745,600

Chess18^2 × 16 = 5,184

Chess36^2 × 16 = 20,736