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Warbringer33
dpnorman wrote:

Neither one of you was really mature but where Warbringer33 truly took a dive was when he started citing ratings as a reason for why the person he was arguing against must be stupid. Neither one of you guys has a very good chess rating, and the difference between Warbringer's 1300 and Sub1000's 1100 (or whatever it is, I just looked at tactics trainer) is not a lot, but outside of the study of chess itself, you cannot assume someone is not intelligent because he is low-rated, and doing so is also highly offensive because after all, most people would be rated under 1000 if they played chess. You might say that if they worked at it, they could be higher than that, but probably not, since people over 25 years old rarely improve in chess. I know several people who have played almost every weekend for years and can't break 1300- and objectively they may be smarter people than I am.

Again, that you could actually take personally how I responded to a troll is just ...nuts. He flamed me and I flamed him. How you could actually sit there and discuss it as though I deeply wounded a little puppy is just ...highly indicative of underlying issues.

Let it go. You're a senstive, special, unique little snowflake. Ok?

I have no idea why some of you even spend your time on here. It's like you think you're changing the world one post at a time or something.

dpnorman

Jesus Christ dude, way to be presumptuous. Some of the things you posted on this thread were legitimately obnoxious. If I wanted to, I could call you a moron because you're not above 1700. But I don't. I don't know why you feel the need to.

Warbringer33
dpnorman wrote:

Jesus Christ dude, way to be presumptuous. Some of the things you posted on this thread were legitimately obnoxious. If I wanted to, I could call you a moron because you're not above 1700. But I don't. I don't know why you feel the need to.

Again: Why are you posting? Nobody cares...

You have no idea what my rating is. All you see is a tactics rating and a chess mentor rating last played weeks ago.

I really don't care if you do or don't call me a moron. You're some rando on the internet. Only someone with something seriously wrong with them could feel the need to defend themselves to someone on the internet.

Seriously - This is over. It's the weekend and I would hope you have something better to do than literally cry a river over nothing here in this thread. Your goal is 2200+ and chess is your life, right? Neither you nor I are increasing our rating by arguing over what originated by a troll with a clown avatar. We're wasting our time. I didn't actually mean (I can't believe I have to say this) that rating correlates to intelligence. I was responding to a troll. If you're going to take personally what people say to trolls on internet forums ...it's going to be a rough ride for you.

The thread was over. You came back and resurrected this for no reason today by dignifying a troll. It wasn't the brightest move, man.

MSC157

You don't get it, simply.

P.S: Relevant username.

Warbringer33
MSC157 wrote:

You don't get it, simply.

P.S: Relevant username.

No...I'm not a teenager. I'm an adult. *Most* of us don't actually carry our sensitivities on our sleeves when surfing and posting on sites like Chess.com. When you get a few years older I can assure you that you won't consider a website like this an actual real life extension of socialization. It's not.

NewArdweaden

Adult?!

Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

flatters1

Impressive use of spell-check, if little else... thank you one and all. Good night.

Warbringer33
NewArdweaden wrote:

Adult?!

 

Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

Yet again: What you could possibly hope to accomplish with a post like this is ...unfathomable. Don't you see the irony in your post? You're honestly going to debate behavior here? You just made a decision to engage in an absolutely ridiculous conversation on the internet on a Friday night. One that had NOTHING to do with you. So this is what you do for enjoyment and you want to actually argue the semmantics of our behavior and which age group it correlates most with?

Do any of you ever...play or study chess? Then tell me HOW you would rather be doing this right now?

I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not going to. Really guys...this is pathetic. I'm going to go play chess. If I come back here tomorrow and see that you guys spent hours crying about this ...I just really, really am going to feel sorry for you. Go enjoy your night.

NewArdweaden
Warbringer33 wrote:
NewArdweaden wrote:

Adult?!

 

Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

Yet again: What you could possibly hope to accomplish with a thread like this is ...unfathomable. Don't you see the irony in your post? You're honestly going to debate behavior here? You just made a decision to engage in an absolutely ridiculous conversation on the internet on a Friday night. One that had NOTHING to do with you. So this is what you do for enjoyment and you want to actually argue the semmantics of our behavior and which age group it correlates most with?

Do any of you ever...play or study chess? Then tell me HOW you would rather be doing this right now?

I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not going to. Really guys...this is pathetic.

I feel it's right to show my support when people get insulted by a conceited guy like you. 

Warbringer33
NewArdweaden wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
NewArdweaden wrote:

Adult?!

 

Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

Yet again: What you could possibly hope to accomplish with a thread like this is ...unfathomable. Don't you see the irony in your post? You're honestly going to debate behavior here? You just made a decision to engage in an absolutely ridiculous conversation on the internet on a Friday night. One that had NOTHING to do with you. So this is what you do for enjoyment and you want to actually argue the semmantics of our behavior and which age group it correlates most with?

Do any of you ever...play or study chess? Then tell me HOW you would rather be doing this right now?

I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not going to. Really guys...this is pathetic.

I feel it's right to show my support when people get insulted by a conceited guy like you. 

And therein lies the problem. It's NOT your place to get involved in other people's discussions. You DON'T know me. You only see how I responded to a troll. That you think you're achieving something by putting on your proverbial Superman cape and showing your "support" for people who don't know you or care about you in an internet thread can't possibly do anything but leave people like me feeling superior to you. That's your doing.

Have a nice night.

MSC157
Warbringer33 wrote:
NewArdweaden wrote:

Adult?! Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

Yet again: What you could possibly hope to accomplish with a post like this is ...unfathomable. 

Do any of you ever...play or study chess? Then tell me HOW you would rather be doing this right now?

I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not going to. Really guys...this is pathetic. I'm going to go play chess. If I come back here tomorrow and see that you guys spent hours crying about this ...I just really, really am going to feel sorry for you. Go enjoy your night.

He said you sound like a 13 y/o. And you really do sometimes honestly.

However, as you can see, we do study chess and we're quite successful at it. Looks like our methods are better than yours? Or maybe we're just more inteligent. Doesn't matter at all though. So yeah, we do study chess, we play games on the best website you can find to play and learn. And you? You said your TT or CM is outdated, you don't play game. So what the heck are you doing then here?

NewArdweaden

It is expected of you not to like it. Don't worry, it's a natural response.

I got a pretty good impression of you from this thread. I just hope you diferent in real life.

I care about people even if I don't know them.

I don't think that "an internet thread can't possibly do anything but leave people like me feeling superior to you" makes any sense. You already seem to feel superior to pretty much everybody.

Good night.

Warbringer33
MSC157 wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
NewArdweaden wrote:

Adult?! Frankly, you do sound like a spoiled 13-year-old. 

Yet again: What you could possibly hope to accomplish with a post like this is ...unfathomable. 

Do any of you ever...play or study chess? Then tell me HOW you would rather be doing this right now?

I certainly wouldn't be and I'm not going to. Really guys...this is pathetic. I'm going to go play chess. If I come back here tomorrow and see that you guys spent hours crying about this ...I just really, really am going to feel sorry for you. Go enjoy your night.

He said you sound like a 13 y/o. And you really do sometimes honestly.

However, as you can see, we do study chess and we're quite successful at it. Looks like our methods are better than yours? Or maybe we're just more inteligent. Doesn't matter at all though. So yeah, we do study chess, we play games on the best website you can find to play and learn. And you? You said your TT or CM is outdated, you don't play game. So what the heck are you doing then here?

Ok...I'm trying to be nice here and actually respond to this because YOU clearly just "don't get it": Chess.com is, by no means, the best chess website out there. The live chess is arguably the worst there is. I play chess OTB, on ICC (in a league. The team 45/45 league which is the best league online) and most recently now on Lichess, ChessTempo's new live chess, and now FIDE Online Arena. I have a Diamond here because it's cheap, I'm trying it out, and I like ChessMentor.

I've been playing Chess since last fall. That might have a little something to do with why people who have been playing for literally years upon years are rated higher than me.

That all of this would need to be explained to you and that you couldn't simply just know that there could be any number of reasons why someone doesn't play chess on one venue out of all the possibilities out there is ...just indicative of how you want to argue and kick sand. As said, find something to actually do with your weekend other than this because THIS is a ridiculous waste of your time.

And goodnight to you.

PossibleOatmeal

Re: ICC Team 45/45 league = best league online

Having played in both ICC and FICS team 45 45 league, I prefer the one on FICS because of the Watchbot program that records the games with comments from observers and stores them online.  It has promoted a fantastic community atmosphere around the games, and the league is a much bigger "event" because of this.  Each and every game is a great learning experience because of the comments from many strong players that are automatically stored on a web page for each game.

Here is just one example game:

http://mekk.waw.pl/mk/watchbot/game/4523881

Stratos69

Warbringer everyone is trying to teach you a lesson. Only post on a troll's forum i will ever post but this time i just feel the need through this sheer stupidity.

Warbringer33
Stratos69 wrote:

Warbringer everyone is trying to teach you a lesson. Only post on a troll's forum i will ever post but this time i just feel the need through this sheer stupidity.

Unbelievable. Another child comes on and says that his e buddies are trying to "teach me a lesson". By trolling my thread? You have GOT to be kidding me?? LOL. Dude, really - Get an existance.

I guess you haven't read much of what I've written in the last few pages. Anyone that would be putting effort into "teaching me a lesson" has something seriously wrong with them. Psychological fact. You're individuals...not a team. When you see someone in an argument - stay out of it and mind your own business. It has NOTHING to do with you. I mean let's be honest - You guys are the type of people who run from your own shadow offline. You and I both know you don't come running to everyone's rescue in society because people like me would never, ever tolerate your rude, ignorant interjection into something that doesn't concern you.

You were born in 1998. You don't belong teaching lessons to anyone yet. You very much belong sitting down, shutting up, and paying attention since you got here like yesterday.

And a good one to you, too.

MSC157
Warbringer33 wrote:
Ok...I'm trying to be nice here and actually respond to this because YOU clearly just "don't get it": Chess.com is, by no means, the best chess website out there. The live chess is arguably the worst there is. I play chess OTB, on ICC (in a league. The team 45/45 league which is the best league online) and most recently now on Lichess, ChessTempo's new live chess, and now FIDE Online Arena. I have a Diamond here because it's cheap, I'm trying it out, and I like ChessMentor.

Chess.com IS the best website if you wanna learn chess thoroughly. 

However, if you wanna play long games, go to ICC then. Chesstempo is an excrement for everything but tactics (no idea about databases, I use some others). Lichess? For fast, lightning games you anyway don't play...

For reference, when I started playing chess a few years ago, I only played 2 people OTB and used chess.com for everything else. In 6 months I was 1700...

Warbringer33
MSC157 wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
Ok...I'm trying to be nice here and actually respond to this because YOU clearly just "don't get it": Chess.com is, by no means, the best chess website out there. The live chess is arguably the worst there is. I play chess OTB, on ICC (in a league. The team 45/45 league which is the best league online) and most recently now on Lichess, ChessTempo's new live chess, and now FIDE Online Arena. I have a Diamond here because it's cheap, I'm trying it out, and I like ChessMentor.

Chess.com IS the best website if you wanna learn chess thoroughly. 

However, if you wanna play long games, go to ICC then. Chesstempo is an excrement for everything but tactics (no idea about databases, I use some others). Lichess? For fast, lightning games you anyway don't play...

For reference, when I started playing chess a few years ago, I only played 2 people OTB and used chess.com for everything else. In 6 months I was 1700...

I don't know if this is you actually having a discussion but ...obviously everything comes down to a matter of preference. All I'll say is that ChessTempo's live chess is brand new and the deepest of any online experience. They have an innovative "short correspondence" game type, also where you can put in 12 or 24 hours on the clock total and every 20 hours you get 10 hours of sleep. It works out better than you could imagine. As for the live chess...like I said, it's really good and graphically the best looking interface out there when it's in fullscreen mode. Just saying, keep an open mind and give everything a shot. There are a lot of new things coming out and to be totally honest: With Lichess, ChessTempo, Chess.com's V3 coming, etc - ICC isn't the monster that it once was. It's really dead on there a lot of the time compared to the other networks.

But yes...ChessTempo is my overall favorite chess website right now and Lichess is beyond brilliant, as well as open sourced and innovative beyond belief. Chess.com has a lot of work to do with V3 if they want to just be considered the best place to play live chess. And for the record, Lichess isn't just "lightning games" any more than Chess.com is. Since there are no pairing pools, you'll see people playing all sorts of different TC's, many of which are traditional long chess.

Stratos69

Woohoo what keyboard warrior we have here! Impressed by your absolute seriousness on how you take this thread. :) 

MSC157

Not sure if you're joking or not anymore... But yeah, everyone has his own opinion.

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