Why is chess not at the olympics?

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shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:

how is tug of war not a spectacle? you see two teams of superiorly physical men battle over a rope

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

what would your response be if I wasn't sarcastic then?

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That kid is the last one in line by the way... so if he crosses the red line his team loses (the line he falls in front of multiple times).

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DaBabysBurner wrote:
shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:

how is tug of war not a spectacle? you see two teams of superiorly physical men battle over a rope

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

what would your response be if I wasn't sarcastic then?

that i think you need to refresh your brain xd 

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shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:
shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:

how is tug of war not a spectacle? you see two teams of superiorly physical men battle over a rope

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

what would your response be if I wasn't sarcastic then?

that i think you need to refresh your brain xd 

The movie 300 was a spectacle. Just have the tug of war men be shirtless and well-oiled... 

... film it in slow-mo and you might even make 100 million dollars (or whatever that movie made).

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serverbusyc wrote:
icyboyyy wrote:

in shooting, you actually need some physical skill to aim. in chess, you just need to have good mental capabilities and have a working hand to move pieces

Im so tired of people being you just need to have good mental capbities. Its not easy if it was that easy I would not  be doing 10 hours of hardcore (books,memorizing master games to move 15) rn instead i would be watching tv and still doing good in chess if chess was so easy stop underestimating how much effort it takes to be good at chess

yes you put in effort but reading books and studying isn't putting forth physical effort, it's mental effort

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To be fair, mental effort is a bit harder...

"Lift this weight 1000000000 times and you'll be strong"

Sure it's challenging, but it's not hard, if you see what I mean.

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shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:
shadowarcher28 wrote:
DaBabysBurner wrote:

how is tug of war not a spectacle? you see two teams of superiorly physical men battle over a rope

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.

what would your response be if I wasn't sarcastic then?

that i think you need to refresh your brain xd 

Then I was being sarcastic : )

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llama47 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
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Optimissed wrote:

Olympic sports are about physical prowess. Board games are not, unless you're deluded. Obviously you have to be fit enough that you don't drop dead in the middle of the game, or you'd lose. Saying chess is physical is as daft as saying running is mental because you have to have a brain to work out where to run.

Shooting is an Olympic sport. How much muscle do you need to pull a trigger?

That's an anomaly and wasn't otiginally an Olympic sport but there are military associations as with archery.

Anyway, it isn't an argument that chess should be. Why don't they have pie-eating competitions and tiddleywinks?

So 1/10.

Maybe at your level of playing you see no difference between chess and pie eating... but that's a personal problem.

Your argument was that Olympic sports require physical prowess. I gave a counter example. So now you have no argument. Too bad.

     Of course there are physical aspects to shooting. Good eyesight for one, strength and dexterity in the hands, muscle control. Not really up to the demands of most Olympic sports, but more than chess takes. A slight tremor in your hand or pulling the trigger too quickly usually results in a poor shot.

     The shooting events at the Olympics devolve from the "modern pentathlon", instituted in1912 (and already out of date) by the founder of  the Olympic movement to encompass the skills important to an army officer. Show jumping (horseback), swimming, fencing and running one kilometer while occasionally stopping for target shooting. Eventually the individual skills all got their own events.

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Interesting.

I thought "must be a spectacle" was good, but "competitive military skills" seems good too (and is apparently part of the history of the Olympics).

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agaprni wrote:

I will offer my simple POV. Chess isn’t a sport. I don’t care what the Olympic Committees say. I would not call chess a sport. It is a board game. I believe that those who call chess a sport simply want to make themselves look and feel more special. Let’s be honest, there’s nothing spectacular about being a chess player, but calling chess a sport makes one feel better and stronger. Think about it like this. Imagine two kids who stay in for week and weeks without going outside only playing connect four, or perhaps the game of life. Do these board games become sports? No! Monopoly, connect four, and the game of life aren’t sports. So what makes chess different? They both require skill. This is only my opinion. I think people who call chess a sport want to glorify the board game that they love. I love chess, and I am unashamed to say it. I know it is a board game, and not a sport. 

Chess is different than a board game, in a board game, you have to be lucky to win, but in chess you have to be good to win.

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Maybe it’s because we already have a lot of tournaments? Idk tbh.

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DaBabysBurner wrote:

how is tug of war not a spectacle? you see two teams of superiorly physical men battle over a rope

I was thinking the same thing. Who doesn't like to watch a tug of war? If that's not a spectacle, what is? A spectacle is supposed to be a visually striking display. Chess is many things, one thing it's NOT is a spectacle. 

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cuzzits not. it hasta be a sport, right ? i mean why isnt risk or checkers or Operation ?...see ?

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

cuzzits not. it hasta be a sport, right ? i mean why isnt risk or checkers or Operation ?...see ?

I don't know of any requirement that something has to be a sport to be in the Olympics. It is, afterall, the Olympic Games. But it seems like there should be events that model the Olympic spirit. In the past they have always chosen sports, I think because sports are the recreational form of the very first Olympic contests. Other recreational contests they avoided. They COULD have put board games in the first Olympics, but they didn't. I think it's because board games do not emphasize, further, or model the Olympic spirit. 

Board games are an entirely different pursuit. 

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Because you don’t need a muscle to play chess 😅
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vidivenivici wrote:
Because you don’t need a muscle to play chess 😅

Thats true. The Olympic motto is "higher, faster, stronger" None of which apply to chess or most other board games. 

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People want to watch steroid munchers with freak genetics do battle.

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vidivenivici wrote:
Because you don’t need a muscle to play chess 😅

You need to use your brain to play chess.

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Tristan-Gurjot214 wrote:
vidivenivici wrote:
Because you don’t need a muscle to play chess 😅

You need to use your brain to play chess.

The brain isn't a muscle

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DaBabysBurner wrote:

The brain isn't a muscle

True for some of us, at least.