I thought it was well known that vote chess is not as high quality as single player? Besides, who is this cheater_1 user? I have never heard of such a user.
Such long posts, too.
Hmmmmmmmmm......
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ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
I thought it was well known that vote chess is not as high quality as single player? Besides, who is this cheater_1 user? I have never heard of such a user.
Such long posts, too.
Ba-dum-pa-tsssh
May 20, 2008
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#24
POST #25 and #26 WAKE UP. ARE YOU SLEEPING? For GOD'S SAKE RESEARCH before you TYPE!!!! This is PRECISELY why I am so frustrated with the users on this site. The buffoonery abounds. NM and MYTSELF...incase you have just crawled out from under a rock, team chess.com is comprised of ONE player with 849 others rooting him on. DUH! Webgogs is the SOLE player on that team. He lets his chessmaster think about the move for 12 or so hours, posts the result, and then says, "EVERYONE, PAWN TO E4." Then the little clones vote for E4.
This vote chess game is cheater_1 vs Webgogs. I am saddened that the team has given up and let one person take charge, but that is what it is.
Please, people, for future reference, Think before you type.
Would you just shut up and actually prove to us that you are UNMATEABLE! I don't care whether Black has any advantage or not. We are not pushovers. Imitating you, " If there are 10000 games played and White draws in one and loses in the rest, we will draw." So just shut your trap and play chess.
May 22, 2008
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#26
Actually, TEAM CHESS.COM has the burden of PROOF. The rest of the chess worlds knows of my unmateability. Tens of thousands of internet chess players knows the name cheater_1, cheaterII, and cheaterIII. I'm quite sure there are a few hundred on this very site who know of me.
I'm throwing you guys a bone by letting you play me. So far, you have proved that you EXCEL in conservative play. No doubt it is strong play, but ANYONE can tell you guys are not going for the win. Let's see, before even ONE MOVE WAS MADE, the guidelines for this game were SPELLED out. Try to MATE cheater_1. Not try to draw. TRY TO CHECKMATE!!! SO far, you are coming up short.
Hehe.
"...my father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims, like he had invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy."
Go Dr. Evil!
May 22, 2008
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#28
cheater_1 wrote:
You all try to make light of the situation. You all MOCK me. Well, we'll see who has the last laugh. Always remember he who laughs last laughs the loudest.. I will have the last laugh.
It's not easy taking on 850+ people, even though only a fraction of that number are voting. 1 vs 850 and the ONE is winning. Underneath your mocking tone, I know there is some respect for me. My whole life has been an uphill battle, and this is yet another test. Yes, I am on the outside looking in. Yes, I am the boy at the playground who has been shunned. Yes, I am the weakling who gets picked on by the jocks. Yes, I am the one who is picked last for the football team. Yes, I am the one who no girl picks for the dance and is left standing alone in the corner. Yes, I am the one boy who was forgotten when the bus left and had to walk 5 miles home by himself crying all the way. Yes, I am the one who had to go see Star Wars by himself because all his "friends" are going with their own friends. Just as you all sympathized when Anakin turned to the dark side, for he was a victim of society, I'm quite sure you can at least UNDERSTAND my ways, my motives.
I am the champion for all the downtrodden. I REPRESENT all the people who havent gotten a fair shake in the game of life. I am fighting for YOU. I am fighting for all the folks who have tried and tried and put forth YEARS of effort at whatever it is that they hoped and dreamed for, only to see it given to someone else who NEVER EVEN lifted a finger. This game is PERSONAL to me. I am giving it 100%. Nothing in life matters more right now than me CHECKMATING team chess.com. It is not my concern if you all are not taking it seriously and are banking on a rematch. I am playing as if my LIFE depended on it.
You're on CHESS.com Expect no sympathy for being the worst at sports. Please explain the years of effort you put into analyzing chess programs in greater detail. You're not fighting for us, but against us. You come in here thinking that you can beat the people who have tried for years to be the best, but only to "fall" to those who have never lifted a finger. I'll give you the lift a finger part, because you do have to click, but honestly what kind of effort goes into that? How can you be giving 100% when you don't really control your own moves, you just pick between what chess engines give you. Blatently challenging society (ie. Chess.com) then calling yourself a victim when the dog bit back is just lame.
May 22, 2008
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#29
also, if I remember correctly, Erik threw you a bone by setting up this game. You just bragged on the forums, arrogantly, that you were the best computer chess player ever, and Erik decided to set up the game.
The entire point of this thread is lame. If I remember correctly, anything goes. That includes cheating (which I'm pretty sure we're not doing anyways).
May 22, 2008
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#30
Batgirl =- My Avatar wnat to ask your Avatar to marry??
I do have one snag! cheater_1 is my best man.
He tells the chess community that he can't be trusted. What do you make of that?
Where can I watch this game anyway?
Does anyone else find it ironinc that "cheater"1 is complaining about cheating? 
Boy, these posts sure are cute! I wish we could hear some more whining! lol
It's just a game. If you win, or if you lose, cheater1, you will still be the same person that you were once the game is over. Whether you win or lose, you will look the same, talk the same, and probably act the same. Chess never satisfies the lust of adventure, it only provokes it.
Cheer up and play 1. f4, you'll feel better!
May 23, 2008
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#34
Reverse Psychology: A psychological technique whereby a person makes a contrary statement or suggests a contrary course of action in hopes that the other person will do the opposite, which is actually the desired outcome.
Once again, I am going to reveal a secret....let you take a glimpse of the man behind the curtain. But only a peek. When I proclaimed my unmateability and claimed that I would actually have no problem checkmating team chess.com, and then entered this vote chess game, I was playing for the draw from MOVE 1. Those HARSH words were NECESSARY for me to manipulate chess.com to give me a game. I had no intention of playing for the win (sure it would be nice) but a draw was all I desired. Protecting my UNMATEABILITY was all I wanted. Protecting me going down on material at any point was also of prime importance. Generally speaking Material outweighs Position in terms of chess outcome--more often than not.
I had my contempt for draw setting at -200 and Piece trading settings at their highest, meaning that my programs would play moves that were drawish and shoot for the endgame as soon as possible.
So far, I have gotten everything I wanted. Anyone who thinks that either side has even a slim chance of winning needs to take up checkers.
My vacation begins in approximately 10 more moves. There is a 71.8% that I will continue with this game AFTER my vacation. I will keep you all updated of that number, as it will change every day based on our position. I would like to........
WAIT! I see something........There is something in the distance.....it is walking towards me........I cant quite make it out.........I dont have my binoculars handy....but......I'll let you know what it is when it gets closer....it looks........looks like a person.........
May 23, 2008
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#35
Man you're gonna get me banned... I gotta stop reading your posts!
May 23, 2008
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#36
"Batgirl =- My Avatar wnat to ask your Avatar to marry??"
You want my Avatar to marry a glass of beer?
We'll pass.
"I do have one snag! cheater_1 is my best man."
My Avatar and I prefer to associate with men who don't whine.
I'm actually hoping he's not just bragging about his UNMATEABILITY. A terrible fate for any woman . . . .
May 23, 2008
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#38
have you ever heared of cry of cry baby bunting, thats you :)
May 23, 2008
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#39
From Post #38:
"I had my contempt for draw setting at -200 and Piece trading settings at their highest, meaning that my programs would play moves that were drawish and shoot for the endgame as soon as possible.
So far, I have gotten everything I wanted. Anyone who thinks that either side has even a slim chance of winning needs to take up checkers."
...I can't say I quite understand the motivation behind demonstrating one's skill at setting parameters.
Perhaps cheater_1 feels that he is in some way giving a voice to the computer/program in these forums, vs. the plethora of human voices? Equally mysterious, but at least it represents a point of view.
May 23, 2008
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#40
All I'm saying is that I have INVENTED a new chess methodology...a new way of playing chess. Sure, I will never go down as the winningest chess player of all time, or even close. But from my unique perspective, I will have a title that is just as good, if not better:
Chess GURU plays tens of thousands of internet chess games without ever being CHECKMATED!!!
My formula has ENSURED that I am 100% unmateable. Chess programs are always evolving. Hardware is CONSTANTLY being upgraded. I know a bit about programming and have coworkers who know a lot. What we have done is rewritten and altered code that does NOT produce a stronger program than what it started out as, but turned the chess program into a 2,000,000 ton piece of lead that is IMMOVABLE. INDESTRUCTABLE. It just EXISTS. If you don't like it, you must go around it. There is no way to remove it. It's not mean or angry or gonna hurt you, but it will remain there FOREVER.
As with ANY piece of software, as you all know, there are FLAWS upon FLAWS. Things just waiting to be exploited. It takes some work, but you can make a chess program play in such a way that it will always draw. Heck, I would wager that I could draw DEEP BLUE 10 out of ten times if we had these correspondence time controls.
ih8sens: "Best wishes in the finale...I'd hate to see you get mated"
Actually I'd love to see it!