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NimzoRoy
Conflagration_Planet wrote:
NimzoRoy wrote:

Genius consists of 2% inspiration and 98% perspiration. THOMAS EDISON

It amazes me how people always quote these old sayings, like they're written in stone, just because somebody famous person coined it.

So, is Edison wrong? Not for people like me he isn't. There's a reason why people keep on quoting Edison, Shakespeare, Lincoln, Yogi Berra(!) et al and why they aren't quoting (well you can fill in the blank) BUT on the other hand, maybe you know something that all these old-fashioned, out-dated too often-quoted hacks overlooked?

Conflagration_Planet
NimzoRoy wrote:
Conflagration_Planet wrote:
NimzoRoy wrote:

Genius consists of 2% inspiration and 98% perspiration. THOMAS EDISON

It amazes me how people always quote these old sayings, like they're written in stone, just because somebody famous person coined it.

So, is Edison wrong? Not for people like me he isn't. There's a reason why people keep on quoting Edison, Shakespeare, Lincoln, Yogi Berra(!) et al and why they aren't quoting (well you can fill in the blank) BUT on the other hand, maybe you know something that all these old-fashioned, out-dated too often-quoted hacks overlooked?

You just happen to think it sounds cool. Just because they had talent in their own fields, doesn't mean they know everything. It's just something that you happen to like the sound of.

NimzoRoy

You just happen to think it sounds cool. Just because they had talent in their own fields, doesn't mean they know everything. It's just something that you happen to like the sound of.   Conflagration_Planet

OK, I never said anyone (past Leonardo da Vinci anyways) "knew everything" (worth knowing at least). BUT oddly enuff, quotation books edited by people considerably more literate than me (and possibly you) also seem to "...happen to like the sound of" many quotes by Shakespeare, Chomsky, Marx, Lincoln, etc etc. What an odd coincidence huh?

BUT I guess being in Bartletts doesn't prove that the individual being quoted "knew everything" but maybe they did know what they were talking about in their quotes IMHO

fatymid

How to train?

Lern openings, lern endings and try to remember what you learned!

Also solve a lot of combinations.

Conflagration_Planet
NimzoRoy wrote:

You just happen to think it sounds cool. Just because they had talent in their own fields, doesn't mean they know everything. It's just something that you happen to like the sound of.   Conflagration_Planet

OK, I never said anyone (past Leonardo da Vinci anyways) "knew everything" (worth knowing at least). BUT oddly enuff, quotation books edited by people considerably more literate than me (and possibly you) also seem to "...happen to like the sound of" many quotes by Shakespeare, Chomsky, Marx, Lincoln, etc etc. What an odd coincidence huh?

BUT I guess being in Bartletts doesn't prove that the individual being quoted "knew everything" but maybe they did know what they were talking about in their quotes IMHO

Think about it. Nobody, no matter how smart, could say with absolute certainty that genius Is 2/98.

Frosticals

i thought i would get more serious answers Frown

NimzoRoy

Conflagration_PlanetI think Edison was talking about himself, as it took him thousands of tries to come up with a long-burning light bulb - there wasn't anyone around to give him the (then non-existent) correct formula for what the filament should be made out of. 

And I think his quote applies to lots of other geniuses (and non-geniuses) but obviously not to everyone else, genius or not.

So I guess your point is that if a quote isn't 100% correct all the time for all the people it's a worthless quote? I sure hope no one tells Yogi Berra this...

“I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.” 
― Ralph Waldo EmersonThe Essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson

@ regularostrich: sorry, but if nothing else, now you know what "hijacking a thread" meansFrown AND check out my endgame blogs if you want to improve your game!

Conquistador
TacticalSymphony wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:

I figure lots of jumping jacks will help me reach out and hit the clock better.

Why do the mods let this guy just keep trolling every thread? 

And here comes the fun police.  The party is over.

When God made chess players, did he forget to put in a funnybone in most of them?  Seriously, some of you guys make me wonder.

waffllemaster
Conquistador wrote:
TacticalSymphony wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:

I figure lots of jumping jacks will help me reach out and hit the clock better.

Why do the mods let this guy just keep trolling every thread? 

And here comes the fun police.  The party is over.

When God made chess players, did he forget to put in a funnybone in most of them?  Seriously, some of you guys make me wonder.

It's (unfortunately) a legitimate question.  I say unfortunately because Andy's been here a long time and I like him. He used to post on topic and contribute in a chess sense often, but now 9/10 times it's silliness.  But silliness is harmless and he's not rude so the mods leave him alone I guess.

But notice even usually serious contributors like Pfren, Pellik, Estragon, et al were joining in on the fun too... I mean if these guys are cracking jokes there's no hope for andy lol.

waffllemaster

You're right.  I'm glad I'm not the mod who has to make the call though because screw it, I like him and he's staying lol.  There are (ok here comes rationalization) much worse posters who spam and troll and all that.  He's harmless :p

APawnCanDream

I took a holiday break from chess study the past 5-6 weeks or so, however come the new year I'll be boarding the train again. Before my break my average daily study was 20 minutes solving tactical puzzles, reading a chapter in Silman's complete endgame course book (15-25 minutes), and going over one master game picking a side and trying to guess the moves (20-30 minutes). So usually around an hour a day, sometimes more if time allowed. I also have around a dozen games going here at Chess.com at a time.

However come the new year I'll be modifying that training program to allow for more tactical puzzle solving (30 minutes) and developing my knowledge of a few openings to begin to learn and hopefully one day master. I haven't determined what specific openings I want to learn but I have a few days yet to pick them. I'm also going to include more playing time so I'll probably rotate playing between my end game book reading every other day or so. My average daily study time will probably be around an hour to an hour and a half a day give or take next year.

Da-Novelty

Waste my time on this troll. Thought it was a nice topic to discuss.

fissionfowl

I think the site would be a poorer place if there were only "serious" posters.

zborg

Yes, indeed, the Muppets could easily help spead drug use.

Clearly, that what's Andy's Avatar did on his TV show in California.  Smile

3943rjfrolland

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

chessmaster102
KingsEye wrote:

I took a holiday break from chess study the past 5-6 weeks or so, however come the new year I'll be boarding the train again. Before my break my average daily study was 20 minutes solving tactical puzzles, reading a chapter in Silman's complete endgame course book (15-25 minutes), and going over one master game picking a side and trying to guess the moves (20-30 minutes). So usually around an hour a day, sometimes more if time allowed. I also have around a dozen games going here at Chess.com at a time.

However come the new year I'll be modifying that training program to allow for more tactical puzzle solving (30 minutes) and developing my knowledge of a few openings to begin to learn and hopefully one day master. I haven't determined what specific openings I want to learn but I have a few days yet to pick them. I'm also going to include more playing time so I'll probably rotate playing between my end game book reading every other day or so. My average daily study time will probably be around an hour to an hour and a half a day give or take next year.

How long have you been following the trainning

chessmaster102
MSteen wrote:

Going back to the OP, I've been spending a lot of time on tactics training, both here (when it's not freezing on me) and on Chess Tactics Server. I find the latter to have more basic problems (at least at my level) that I can use to sharpen my eye. On the TT on chess.com, my results fluctuate much more widely. I usually do a minimum of 25 tactics a day.

I also use Chess Mentor quite a bit, and I'm getting a lot out of watching the annotated videos of great games.

For play, I'm currently playing 9 online games at a time. When I finish one, I immediately sign up for another. At the moment I'm not playing a lot of live chess because I prefer slower time controls and have to make sure I've got a block of time carved out to play when I won't get interrupted.

One thing I'm avoiding like the plague is blitz chess and faster. It just demoralizes me, drags down my rating, and teaches me nothing.

How long have you been doing this.

chessmaster102
ViktorHNielsen wrote:

20 minutes (sometimes 30) on tactics and calculation.

Then study openings, currently the Berlin Endgame, that would say I learn endgame and middlegame themes, and a little theory.

Then endgames, because it's so fun with the right training method

Then middlegames. I take Bobby Fisher 60 games collection and take a random game, play to move 15, and try to create a plan. Writing down my  variations and ideas, I check with a computer. If it's the wrong plan, I learn the right plan, and try to learn why it's the wrong plan.

Remember to pause, and play some blitz. Chess should be fun, not a boring lifestyle.

how long have you been doing this.

APawnCanDream
chessmaster102 wrote:
KingsEye wrote:

I took a holiday break from chess study the past 5-6 weeks or so, however come the new year I'll be boarding the train again. Before my break my average daily study was 20 minutes solving tactical puzzles, reading a chapter in Silman's complete endgame course book (15-25 minutes), and going over one master game picking a side and trying to guess the moves (20-30 minutes). So usually around an hour a day, sometimes more if time allowed. I also have around a dozen games going here at Chess.com at a time.

However come the new year I'll be modifying that training program to allow for more tactical puzzle solving (30 minutes) and developing my knowledge of a few openings to begin to learn and hopefully one day master. I haven't determined what specific openings I want to learn but I have a few days yet to pick them. I'm also going to include more playing time so I'll probably rotate playing between my end game book reading every other day or so. My average daily study time will probably be around an hour to an hour and a half a day give or take next year.

How long have you been following the trainning

About three months or so (stopped early November).

chessmaster102
RogerOT wrote:
TacticalSymphony wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:

I figure lots of jumping jacks will help me reach out and hit the clock better.

Why do the mods let this guy just keep trolling every thread? 

It's always been the case, he seems to be part of a clique that's been around awhile and is a pain for any thread that might be serious...sad really, nothing better to do probably.

I'm sure just asking him to stop is reasonable.He once trolled a little on a  thread I was serious about and when I commented telling him that was serious about the question he simply answered other than that I usualy enjoy his comical relief even on my on threads sometimes.Chess is a world of "serious" people the fact that he makes "harmless" jokes unlike Pfren etc... makes him a purposeful rebel in a sense.