Here's one think that can help,
Supposedly when you think of professors you'll intelligence increases a little bit.
Maybe when you think of grandmasters your chess will increase a bit. I think the trick is not to think of one chess player in particular because that will work counter productive, but good chess players in general.
No joke
hypnotized to play better chess
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bronsteinitz wrote:
Two good remarks.
Thanks Bron :)
Vivinski wrote:
Here's one think that can help,
Supposedly when you think of professors you'll intelligence increases a little bit.
Maybe when you think of grandmasters your chess will increase a bit. I think the trick is not to think of one chess player in particular because that will work counter productive, but good chess players in general.
No joke
Hmm, not sure about that, will give it a try 
So Ruby, if we ever play again, you will be thinking of grandmasters in general. That would take away all of the charm for me, I have to confess.
Well then I'll make an exception in your case :-)
I think he was joking Kenpo
Like we believe Kenpo is joking when he starts about that farmer.... (ouch...)
It might make peoples chess improve if there was a threat that they have to read a Wendell Berry article if they lose.
Not the totality of it I presume?
Actually maybe that would be too much mental torture.
Sep 9, 2012
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fburton wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Ruby-Fischer wrote:
Derren Brown beats 9 chess masters.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8a6st_derren-brown-beats-9-chess-players_videogames
No he doesn't. He gets an even score, and add some magic.
In fact he revels the trick for an even number of players in the video, because it's already well-known.
As for how to have 'a bit more' than equality, he doesn't even need to know how to play chess (unlike what he claimed to beat the weakest player). Same for the prediction of how many pieces are left, he doesn't even need to make a mistake (6 instead of 7). That's magic, and not hypnosis. (and no, I can't tell you how it's done).
Interesting - I had assumed that DB had played off the 8 masters/GMs against each other and managed to beat the 9th (who was a club player) himself. Why can't you say how it was done?
Yes, Derren Brown plays 4 chess masters against other 4, yet he alone plays the ninth player,the weakest one, which is how he beats them as a group. The ninth player is no easy player being president of Chess Society at Kings College. he must formidable himself. Remember Derren Brown uses deception, misdirection in his shows. Before he introduces himself to the group he whispers that his chess playing is sh**, this is a lie. Derren Brown must have played chess in his life, or still does and fooled us into thinking his chess wasnt great. The real head turner is how he managed to know almost all the chess peices still left on the board at the end of the game!
kamileon wrote:
fburton wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Ruby-Fischer wrote:
Derren Brown beats 9 chess masters.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8a6st_derren-brown-beats-9-chess-players_videogames
No he doesn't. He gets an even score, and add some magic.
In fact he revels the trick for an even number of players in the video, because it's already well-known.
As for how to have 'a bit more' than equality, he doesn't even need to know how to play chess (unlike what he claimed to beat the weakest player). Same for the prediction of how many pieces are left, he doesn't even need to make a mistake (6 instead of 7). That's magic, and not hypnosis. (and no, I can't tell you how it's done).
Interesting - I had assumed that DB had played off the 8 masters/GMs against each other and managed to beat the 9th (who was a club player) himself. Why can't you say how it was done?
Yes, Derren Brown plays 4 chess masters against other 4, yet he alone plays the ninth player,the weakest one, which is how he beats them as a group. The ninth player is no easy player being president of Chess Society at Kings College. he must formidable himself.
No, he doesn't. He would be taking a risk facing a president of club, even if he was really good at chess he can't have a professional level. Mentalism tricks do never take more than 10% chances failure. I could claim he could have beaten any of the nin, but I can't back it up without giving the secret away.
Irontiger, i begin to suspect that you were involved in the downfall of strauss-kahn... That is also a well guarded secret :-)
Intresting =You should carefuly plan each move
Last time I was hypnotized I woke up in a Cuban jail, you won't fool me again CIA.
Irontiger wrote:
kamileon wrote:
Yes, Derren Brown plays 4 chess masters against other 4, yet he alone plays the ninth player,the weakest one, which is how he beats them as a group. The ninth player is no easy player being president of Chess Society at Kings College. he must formidable himself.
No, he doesn't. He would be taking a risk facing a president of club, even if he was really good at chess he can't have a professional level. Mentalism tricks do never take more than 10% chances failure. I could claim he could have beaten any of the nin, but I can't back it up without giving the secret away.
But he does play the 4 against the 4? Or not?
What bad consequences would there be for telling us how (you think) it worked?
I have no doubt that hypnosis, in the hands of a skilled practitioner, can be used to help augment one's chess play. By giving a person the reminders to verify every move, calculate carefully, minimize anxiety, etc.
Such techniques are employed by a large number of performers in a variety of fields, and they seem to have some value. Though the degree to which it is the hypnosis versus the degree to which it is just a good therapist who uses hypnosis as a mechanism is hotly contested.
But it can't make you better than you are already. All it can do is help you consistently perform closer to your peak. It can be used to narrow your natural swings in performance, not grant you new chess skills.
Sep 11, 2012
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I cannot remember who it was but someone said in a video on this site if you want to become rated 1600 you have to stop blunder.
let's say under deep hypnosis you were in instructed never to play a move unless you are sure it is not a blunder.
that would be a major improvement to most chess players.
I have seen 1550 rated players hang a knight otb or even a queen.
I may self have calculated a tactic otb that assumed a piece wasn't there. as soon as I played it I could see my plan fall apart.
I was like Kasparov shaking my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSFrOs6KEPw I could not believe I did consider my tactic didn't work. cause the piece wasn't invisible but it kind of were at the time I calculated.
Two good remarks.