err they are both grandmaster.. so black blunder?? i see no mate combo..
I dont understand why biship didnt take Q
yes that would be a black blunder if he didn't take but i went to game explorer and found no such game http://www.chess.com/games/results?f=880353
i post the whole game.. i dont know how to post the pgn file.. so here is the txt..
Hebden,Mark (2575) - Bates,Richard (2345) [D00]
BCF-ch 84th Hove (3), 06.08.1997
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 Bg4 6.Bd3 c6 7.Ne5 Bf5 8.Qd2 Nbd7 9.h4 h5 10.f3 Rc8 11.Be2 b5 12.Nd1 0-0 13.c3 Ne8 14.Nf2 Nd6 15.g4 hxg4 16.Nexg4 Bxg4 17.Nxg4 f5 18.Ne5 Nxe5 19.dxe5 Nc4 20.Bxc4 dxc4 21.Qg2 Qd5 22.Qxg6 Rcd8 23.Rg1 Qd2+ 24.Kf1 Qd3+ 25.Kg2 Rf7 26.Kh3 e6 27.Qxe6 Kf8 28.Rad1 Re8 29.Qxc6 Qe2 30.Qd6+ Kg8 31.Qd5 1-0
http://www.chess.com/games/view?id=824954
That is the game and the one I have in my database and the one I found on chesstempo.com.
My guess is that move 6 in the notation was incorrect and really should have been Be2 and not Bd3.
White would mate black with Legal's mate if Bxd1.
There is no Legal's Mate in that position.
i dont think it was a error because later in the game u see the bd3 move back to Be2 then later the B x the knight on c4.. that rules out the error.. only possible ans is a blunder. because i see no clear mate for white if black took on the Q..
i dont think it was a error because later in the game u see the bd3 move back to Be2
Posted at the same time :D
Anyway, since this was a master level game I would say the notation was incorrect on the game that got imported into the databases that are on this site, that I have and the one on chesstempo.com (which actually probably came from the same source).
I mean, I guess it is possible that a major blunder was made and neither side saw it but I find that highly unlikely.
White would mate black with Legal's mate if Bxd1.
There is no Legal's Mate in that position.
I just glanced and assumed :P the notation has to be wrong then, because otherwise white is just down a queen and that doesn't happen at the grandmaster level.
I find this all very interesting. If notation is wrong, then isn't it wrong in at least two places ?
I haven't fully read this following forum but the claim is the move was actually 6. Qd3, which would fit in with the rest of the game.
http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=648&start=30
the site claim that it was an error but never post the actual game.. errr this hurts my head i'm going to let it go and consider this a blunder lol
i'm a newbie and i dont understand why black didnt take white queen in this game? instead of BxQ.. black move was Bf5 ..is there a mate combo that i'm missing?? thanx for the help.. chad..