If You Could Change One Rule In Chess, What Would It Be?

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EndgameEnthusiast2357

Touch move is ridiculous, it should be clock-move. These arguments of distracting/confusing your opponents or gaining a millisecond time advantage from using different hands to grab the pieces or whatever is ludicrous. Online you can drag the piece back and let go.

playerafar
Jessicamel wrote:

@playerafar, your wealth in knowledge is limitless

Thank you Jess. I appreciate that.
And I'll add something too.
Including because of that nice encouragement.
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'Rule changes' in chess happen all the time anyway.
Because the 'rules change' according to what kind of chess you've selected to play.
Online versus live.
Rated versus unrated.
Tournament versus single game.
Clock chess versus chess with no clock.
Sudden death on the clock versus 'increment'.
USCF versus FIDE rules.
Bullet and blitz versus slower ...
And then there's all the chess variants too.

DreamscapeHorizons

Get rid of castling.

EndgameEnthusiast2357
JaSn-5276 wrote:

Honestly, the one thing for me in terms of actual chess is the en passant rule. Without it, players would have more freedom to play closed games. It also seemed very strange of a move when I first learned it, as it runs counter to the rule that pawns only go forward but then cross one diagonal when they take a piece.
To counter some other points made in this forum:
- Castling is pretty crucial to chess because leaving your king in the center leads to your opponent exploiting all kinds of vulnerabilities in various ways, like pinning pieces, attacking unprotected pawns, etc. To perform well, you would have to waste a number of moves for prophylaxis. Castling makes these moves unnecessary, and shifts the focus to the development of your pieces in controlling the center.
- Not being able to castle while the king moves over a space which is attacked is important, because although the idea behind it may be wacky, it makes castling encumberable; as a strategy, one can apply pressure on the other's king by preventing it from castling with whatever file or diagonal is available. If this venture succeeds, they could then find ways to attack the king. (Of course, this assumes that this other player is in such a state as to not castle early on in the game as a developing move.)
For website rules, I'd like chess.com to inherit Lichess' feature of requesting taking back a move. That way, at least in friendly games there's a chance that if you mismove your piece, and the mismove is clear enough, your friend will give you a second chance. It would be a nice feature, since you can't exactly mess up moving a piece in over-the-board chess, and you can when playing online. (It happens to the best of us.)

Removing en passant would ruin Endgame complexity, as so many positions arise where one pawn is able to stop 2 pawns from advancing due to it. Otherwise it would literally come down to the mere number of pawns in an Endgame. It maintains a crucial positional aspect of locked pawn endgames and thus some of the middlegame before it. Besides since en passant can only be done on the move and not later, that evens it out. Note it also doesn't apply if the pawn has just moved 1 square past it, only 2, so it doesn't totally prevent closed game play by either side.

playerafar

The game evolved to its basic sets of rules because of popularity and convenience and practicality.
If whoever wants different rules they can have them by agreement in their live game or even an online game.
For example - if you want to let your opponent hover his piece over the board in front of you before he sets it down and maybe set it down on the intended destination square and hold it there while he considers the resulting new position ... and then put it back and move a different piece then maybe that's how it'll be.
You'll see that kind of thing in public parks chess when the players aren't using a clock.
If the other player complains and insists the opponent doesn't do that - then that opponent might walk away and the game ends.
But that time is invested anyway.
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Mostly you'll see though in games without clocks - players don't allow other players to 'hover'. And not with clocks either.
Kibitzing is a bigger problem in park chess.
As for getting a game - not hard.
Bring a novel and a magazine and a writing pad and your phone.
With board and cheap pieces set up in front of you.
As soon as other players see you've got alternatives to 'waiting and hoping' you get a game Right Away.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Half a move is not going to help the players calculation abilities that much, no one is going to hold a piece over a square that he has no intention of moving just to make it easier to visualize future positions from that extra half-move lol!

playerafar
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Half a move is not going to help the players calculation abilities that much, no one is going to hold a piece over a square that he has no intention of moving just to make it easier to visualize future positions from that extra half-move lol!

Sure they do.
You haven't seen any park chess EE.
And it looks like you haven't seen much live chess either.
Touch move is a Great Great rule and helps live tournament chess tremendously.
What's your thing about touching pieces EE?
You have 'feelings' for the pieces?
They 'need' to be touched?

playerafar

EE's angst about touch move ...
its 'touching' ...

EndgameEnthusiast2357
playerafar wrote:
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Half a move is not going to help the players calculation abilities that much, no one is going to hold a piece over a square that he has no intention of moving just to make it easier to visualize future positions from that extra half-move lol!

Sure they do.
You haven't seen any park chess EE.
And it looks like you haven't seen much live chess either.
Touch move is a Great Great rule and helps live tournament chess tremendously.
What's your thing about touching pieces EE?
You have 'feelings' for the pieces?
They 'need' to be touched?

what the...

playerafar
Jessicamel wrote:

@playerafar, your wealth in knowledge is limitless

Again thank you Jess.
I want to let you know something about EE.
openly.
EndgameEnthusiast2357 .
He is active in another forum that is about global warming.
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But at the end of his logins there - he has been consistently deleting all his posts made that day. Every day.
Been going on for months and months.
He might try that here too.
Just so you're informed.

playerafar
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

didn’t know that was against the rules

It isn't.
Doesn't mean it can't be mentioned.
Opening posters decide how they want to run their forums.
You didn't know?

playerafar
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

but you are putting a negative slant on it aren’t you ?

if i get a particularly negative response to an innocent post i made, i may delete it.

You said 'against the rules'
Not I. Now you want a strawman about deleting in general.
And you're projecting.
I tipped off the opening poster about EE's deleting all his posts every day month in month out.
And there's nothing you can do about that.
Its done.
Want to table tennis back and forth?
Find somebody else to do that with.

playerafar
Luke-Jaywalker wrote:

did i upset you ?

you are now making accusations against me.

too much of this cyberbullying is going on here.

You? Upset me?
In your dreams.
I never said deleting is against the rules.
Trying to bait me?
You said 'negative slant'. Your accusation. Cyberbulllying.
You're upset?
Keep accusing me of everything you're doing.
I'll start skipping your posts and replying to better posts.

playerafar
GMAvipray wrote:

Probably having not to pay to get infinite puzzles, lessons, bots, game Review, insights and so much more. If someone gave me a chance to turn this game f2p while having the privileges that you need to pay to have, I would definitely do it.

But chess.com has to get money from somewhere to run the site.
I'm a non-paying member and I and many non-paying members still get to use a lot of great features on a great site.
The catch: Non-paying members get the ads.
But the advertisers have to pay to show those ads.
Plus people want to make money. Most people do.
Including chess.com.
The good news:
More money for chess.com means better chess.com.

ArmaanZameer

The king should be allowed to get captured

playerafar
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

Touch move is ridiculous, it should be clock-move. These arguments of distracting/confusing your opponents or gaining a millisecond time advantage from using different hands to grab the pieces or whatever is ludicrous. Online you can drag the piece back and let go.

Touch move is not ridiculous.
The fact that you can drag a piece back online doesn't make it right for live chess.
A rated live tournament that doesn't have touch move probably wouldn't even be recognized for rating purposes.
You're entitled to your opinion EE.
That's obvious. We know that.
Your reasoning isn't valid though.
And - I'm tipping off the opening poster here that you're deleting all your posts every day in another forum.
And I'm doing it openly.
Why? Because I want other posters to know also.
Before you get started on that here too.
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But players can agree in advance when playing live chess - what rules they want.
So if they don't want touch move they don't have to have it.
Its not a 'rule' except for those who have it that way.

playerafar
ArmaanZameer wrote:

The king should be allowed to get captured

It is.
In some forms of chess.
Live blitz chess rated tournaments.
You can take off the King.
But at slower time controls you can't.
Its considered illegal.
That King has to get out of check though.
If it doesn't or can't then whoever is going to drop on time or its checkmate.

EndgameEnthusiast2357

You need help dude

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Oh to add to this thread I was going to agree with abolishing the 50 move rule and replacing it with a time limit instead, such as if an endless game is holding up the tournament, the arbiter can step in declare it a draw after a half hour has passed regardless of the increments on the clock. Even some of the more basic Endgame piece combinations can take 70-100+ moves to force checkmate without a pawn moving.

playerafar
EndgameEnthusiast2357 wrote:

You need help dude

I know you do EE.