If you don’t accept at least one rematch after you win, then you lose.

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youreacoward69
BadBishopJones3 wrote:

It’s quite a rare ability. Generally people don’t brag they possess the skill, have researched their unique skill and don’t use the misnomer photographic memory.

Most all of the elite chess players possess an eidetic memory at some level. It’s an advantage when playing/ studying chess. We rarely hear them speaking of it.

Yeah,  extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What's the point of stating you have an ability no human has been proven to have and then provide no evidence? People have varying degrees of memory, but stating you have photographic memory is ignorant at best, dishonest at worst.

youreacoward69
Optimissed wrote:
BadBishopJones3 wrote:

Eidetic memory (/ˈdɛtɪk/ eye-DET-ik; more commonly called photographic memory) is the ability to recall an image from memory with high precision for a brief period after seeing it only once,[1] and without using a mnemonic device.[2]Although the terms eidetic memory and photographic memory are popularly used interchangeably,[1] they are also distinguished, with eidetic memory referring to the ability to see an object for a few minutes after it is no longer present[2][3] and photographic memory referring to the ability to recall pages of text or numbers, or similar, in great detail.[4][5] When the concepts are distinguished, eidetic memory is reported to occur in a small number of children and generally not found in adults,[2][6] while true photographic memory has never been demonstrated to exist.[5][7]

I had a weak kind of photographic memory which peaked when I was about ten and which disappeared with puberty. I put it down to the hormones scrambling my brains. When I was ten, I could clear a space in my memory or inner vision by symbolically cleaning it with a blackboard duster and write numbers on the space. I could do a row of numbers in one colour, say pink, and then another row, say in blue. Next I might completely divert my attention by doing something unrelated, for a while, and when I returned to look at the inner space, I could read the numbers off. I proved this was true and that the numbers were the ones I wrote down in my mind. It's very easy to devise an experiment that would prove them correct.

I can remember real events from well before I was one year old and when I was 40, I could still remember long lines of analysis from chess books read only once, well enough to play them accurately. Other people have demonstrated an ability to read back long lists of random numbers, read only once. So it really exists.

I would suggest that it's a paranormal ability. There is a mode of thinking which completely dismisses the paranormal by claiming there is no evidence or that it has never been demonstrated but that is only the incorrect opinion of wishful thinkers!

That makes no sense. "I have an ability that relates the the external world, but don't ask me to prove it! Even though I claim to have "perfect" memory which can EASILY be tested, NO! It's paranormal and you just don't understand lolololzzz." Gimme a break hahah photographic memory is probably the EASIEST thing to demonstrate, you get shown something and you can either remember it PERFECTLY or not. Staaaahhhhhhpppppp

youreacoward69
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
Mkayluh wrote:

I’m sure this isn’t your only account. You made a new one just for this topic on the forum to spread your negative, butt-hurt ego and assume those who refuse a rematch is a coward. You’re a bad sportsmanship, buddy. And a sore loser too. Childish attitude and behaviour.

If it isn’t a new account then hey! Welcome to the site! (: please have fun and enjoy the game. I see your rating is 800, must be new. Resources this site provides is amazing. Lessons, Coaching, many more! You're definitely gonna need 'em!

Not everyone will rematch with you. Most likely not with that awful username to provoke the player and bring a bad impression!

You whine about rematching with people though you don’t want to send rematches yourself. I know this after the match we had earlier when I beat you and I had to be the one to send the rematch and you to accept so you wouldn’t seem like an idiot after everything you’ve said in this forum. Accept it, you wouldn’t accept everyone’s rematch, it’s basic human psychology. You’re not a robot obligated to follow an order of such, you hypocrite 😂

Just so you know, playing with a high-rated player is highly-beneficial in improving in most sports and subjects. Conversing plays a big part too!

Earlier, you said you don’t want to play with me because of my high-rating so does that mean if Chess paired me with you, you wouldn’t accept my challenge..? 🤔😂 You coward.

 

No, you dont photographically remember 90% of the games you've ever played, thats just not true. And if you can't do the things I've said, you DO NOT have photographic memory. Just do a google search hahah thats just not it, no matter how super special it makes you feel to keep repeating. Theres a difference between a good memory and a photographic one. You've just admitted to not having a photographic one, so just stop. You're still special though, don't worry. And maybe if you really had photographic memory you could scan a statistics textbook so you could actually learn how they're done. I'm not changing it. Each participant would have to go through the level of variable, and only after a number of significant number of participants have gone through the variable, then data could be collected. Your stats would reflect your 100 games, and combined with the other participants from the population, would be run through a statistical test of significance to see if there is a SIGNIFICANT ability for chess players to be able to blindly tell the difference between a new opponent and a rematched opponent. 

And me not wanting to rematch you means nothing to my point. I know that I will keep losing if I play against you (the only verifiable one of your abilities you've laid claim to), I know im not going to win and I know you're only doing it because you think you're "getting" me. 

And I would accept a challenge from anyone, I don't really care about that. But realize the ridiculous comparison you're making: your rating is near professional level, while mine is amateur level. Why would I be afraid? I know the reality of our skill level. There's a difference of not wanting to lose 100 games in a row and not wanting to rematch someone of roughly equal skill level. I admit my psychological reason, I don't wish to lose 100 in a row.

Methinks you're just a coward, I don't care what you say I must be right.

Nice misrepresentation of my argument, unless you're just making an obnoxious statement.  

youreacoward69
jessicatheprodigee wrote:

This has got to be the whiniest forum on the internet.

If you lose, just move one and play someone else. Generally, if I beat someone, I think it is fair to give them a rematch... I don't owe you any more than that. If I beat you twice, I think it's fair to play someone else. 

Rarely do I not give rematches. Some of the conditions include:

- I have to log off and wanted to play one last game.

- The person who I beat did somethign unsportsmanlike (like letting the time run out)

- I made a new rating breakthrough and I wanna enjoy it for a little while before potentially losing it.

No one's whining, at least im not. And while you may not agree with the premise, that cowardice in certain cases plays a role in ones decision in not wanting a rematch, you share my point that those who make it a principle and almost a virtue not to rematch are making it a big deal. I'm not making it a big deal, I'm just sharing my thoughts as to the psychology of those that decline in certain circumstances.

GioQuantum

I agree :_(

JijoAttumalilJose

Oh! This forum thread is also filled with so many scientists and wise men. How can the poor persons like us survive here. We demand some of these wise men's knowledge be passed on to poor people like us.tongue.png

Monkey17077

I normally don't unless I am playing unrated bullet games.

 

youreacoward69
Optimissed wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
BadBishopJones3 wrote:

Eidetic memory (/ˈdɛtɪk/ eye-DET-ik; more commonly called photographic memory) is the ability to recall an image from memory with high precision for a brief period after seeing it only once,[1] and without using a mnemonic device.[2]Although the terms eidetic memory and photographic memory are popularly used interchangeably,[1] they are also distinguished, with eidetic memory referring to the ability to see an object for a few minutes after it is no longer present[2][3] and photographic memory referring to the ability to recall pages of text or numbers, or similar, in great detail.[4][5] When the concepts are distinguished, eidetic memory is reported to occur in a small number of children and generally not found in adults,[2][6] while true photographic memory has never been demonstrated to exist.[5][7]

I had a weak kind of photographic memory which peaked when I was about ten and which disappeared with puberty. I put it down to the hormones scrambling my brains. When I was ten, I could clear a space in my memory or inner vision by symbolically cleaning it with a blackboard duster and write numbers on the space. I could do a row of numbers in one colour, say pink, and then another row, say in blue. Next I might completely divert my attention by doing something unrelated, for a while, and when I returned to look at the inner space, I could read the numbers off. I proved this was true and that the numbers were the ones I wrote down in my mind. It's very easy to devise an experiment that would prove them correct.

I can remember real events from well before I was one year old and when I was 40, I could still remember long lines of analysis from chess books read only once, well enough to play them accurately. Other people have demonstrated an ability to read back long lists of random numbers, read only once. So it really exists.

I would suggest that it's a paranormal ability. There is a mode of thinking which completely dismisses the paranormal by claiming there is no evidence or that it has never been demonstrated but that is only the incorrect opinion of wishful thinkers!

That makes no sense. "I have an ability that relates the the external world, but don't ask me to prove it! Even though I claim to have "perfect" memory which can EASILY be tested, NO! It's paranormal and you just don't understand lolololzzz." Gimme a break hahah photographic memory is probably the EASIEST thing to demonstrate, you get shown something and you can either remember it PERFECTLY or not. Staaaahhhhhhpppppp

I'm not being critical of you but you seem to say that a lot of things make no sense to you. You seemed to break up towards the end of your comment and it didn't make sense to me!  I'm just saying that different people seem to be capable of different, unusual things. Memorising all the chess games I ever played would seem like a Very Bad Thing. Anyway, I had a small bet with myself that I could make you break up.

Yes, people have different abilities and different degrees of them. But if you make a claim that you can do something that has never been verified, something that is EASILY testable to prove, then unless you can prove it, you shouldn't say it. Guess what I can read minds, and I have been reading yours for the past hour and will not leave your headspace. You believe me?

Laskersnephew

"If you win a game against someone and they ask you for a rematch, and you don’t agree to do the rematch, then you lose and that person wins."

Maybe is some infantile fantasy world! But in the real world, if you lose--you lose! Screaming "I'm the REAL winner, you coward!" at your computer screen won't change the fact that you just lost.

On another note, I've often heard people ask "Would you care for a game of chess?" I've never heard anyone ask "Would you care for some games of chess?"

Danfurfaro86

There’s no excuses in chess. You move. They move. That’s how you win or lose. That’s why it’s beautiful.

Complaining about a loss doesn’t change the outcome and it certainly won’t make someone learn from their loss. 

Wildekaart

When you resign a game, even when it is just because you lost, it has nothing to do with cowardice. And if you won the game, it has even less to do with cowardice. Why would you be afraid of losing when you just beat the player?

The only thing I can imagine when it IS an act of cowardice is when the opponent is acting rude. Which is probably the case for those who think people must accept rematches or they lose.

youreacoward69
Laskersnephew wrote:

"If you win a game against someone and they ask you for a rematch, and you don’t agree to do the rematch, then you lose and that person wins."

Maybe is some infantile fantasy world! But in the real world, if you lose--you lose! Screaming "I'm the REAL winner, you coward!" at your computer screen won't change the fact that you just lost.

On another note, I've often heard people ask "Would you care for a game of chess?" I've never heard anyone ask "Would you care for some games of chess?"

The OP made that point, I didn't. I don't agree with that logic either. 

youreacoward69
Danfurfaro86 wrote:

There’s no excuses in chess. You move. They move. That’s how you win or lose. That’s why it’s beautiful.

Complaining about a loss doesn’t change the outcome and it certainly won’t make someone learn from their loss. 

I'm not complaining about a loss.

winston_weng
youreacoward69 wrote:
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
Mkayluh wrote:

I’m sure this isn’t your only account. You made a new one just for this topic on the forum to spread your negative, butt-hurt ego and assume those who refuse a rematch is a coward. You’re a bad sportsmanship, buddy. And a sore loser too. Childish attitude and behaviour.

If it isn’t a new account then hey! Welcome to the site! (: please have fun and enjoy the game. I see your rating is 800, must be new. Resources this site provides is amazing. Lessons, Coaching, many more! You're definitely gonna need 'em!

Not everyone will rematch with you. Most likely not with that awful username to provoke the player and bring a bad impression!

You whine about rematching with people though you don’t want to send rematches yourself. I know this after the match we had earlier when I beat you and I had to be the one to send the rematch and you to accept so you wouldn’t seem like an idiot after everything you’ve said in this forum. Accept it, you wouldn’t accept everyone’s rematch, it’s basic human psychology. You’re not a robot obligated to follow an order of such, you hypocrite 😂

Just so you know, playing with a high-rated player is highly-beneficial in improving in most sports and subjects. Conversing plays a big part too!

Earlier, you said you don’t want to play with me because of my high-rating so does that mean if Chess paired me with you, you wouldn’t accept my challenge..? 🤔😂 You coward.

 

No, you dont photographically remember 90% of the games you've ever played, thats just not true. And if you can't do the things I've said, you DO NOT have photographic memory. Just do a google search hahah thats just not it, no matter how super special it makes you feel to keep repeating. Theres a difference between a good memory and a photographic one. You've just admitted to not having a photographic one, so just stop. You're still special though, don't worry. And maybe if you really had photographic memory you could scan a statistics textbook so you could actually learn how they're done. I'm not changing it. Each participant would have to go through the level of variable, and only after a number of significant number of participants have gone through the variable, then data could be collected. Your stats would reflect your 100 games, and combined with the other participants from the population, would be run through a statistical test of significance to see if there is a SIGNIFICANT ability for chess players to be able to blindly tell the difference between a new opponent and a rematched opponent. 

And me not wanting to rematch you means nothing to my point. I know that I will keep losing if I play against you (the only verifiable one of your abilities you've laid claim to), I know im not going to win and I know you're only doing it because you think you're "getting" me. 

And I would accept a challenge from anyone, I don't really care about that. But realize the ridiculous comparison you're making: your rating is near professional level, while mine is amateur level. Why would I be afraid? I know the reality of our skill level. There's a difference of not wanting to lose 100 games in a row and not wanting to rematch someone of roughly equal skill level. I admit my psychological reason, I don't wish to lose 100 in a row.

Methinks you're just a coward, I don't care what you say I must be right.

Nice misrepresentation of my argument, unless you're just making an obnoxious statement.  

How is that so? You don't accept anyone's reasons for not accepting a rematch and call them cowards without providing any evidence of cowardice.

youreacoward69
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
Mkayluh wrote:

I’m sure this isn’t your only account. You made a new one just for this topic on the forum to spread your negative, butt-hurt ego and assume those who refuse a rematch is a coward. You’re a bad sportsmanship, buddy. And a sore loser too. Childish attitude and behaviour.

If it isn’t a new account then hey! Welcome to the site! (: please have fun and enjoy the game. I see your rating is 800, must be new. Resources this site provides is amazing. Lessons, Coaching, many more! You're definitely gonna need 'em!

Not everyone will rematch with you. Most likely not with that awful username to provoke the player and bring a bad impression!

You whine about rematching with people though you don’t want to send rematches yourself. I know this after the match we had earlier when I beat you and I had to be the one to send the rematch and you to accept so you wouldn’t seem like an idiot after everything you’ve said in this forum. Accept it, you wouldn’t accept everyone’s rematch, it’s basic human psychology. You’re not a robot obligated to follow an order of such, you hypocrite 😂

Just so you know, playing with a high-rated player is highly-beneficial in improving in most sports and subjects. Conversing plays a big part too!

Earlier, you said you don’t want to play with me because of my high-rating so does that mean if Chess paired me with you, you wouldn’t accept my challenge..? 🤔😂 You coward.

 

No, you dont photographically remember 90% of the games you've ever played, thats just not true. And if you can't do the things I've said, you DO NOT have photographic memory. Just do a google search hahah thats just not it, no matter how super special it makes you feel to keep repeating. Theres a difference between a good memory and a photographic one. You've just admitted to not having a photographic one, so just stop. You're still special though, don't worry. And maybe if you really had photographic memory you could scan a statistics textbook so you could actually learn how they're done. I'm not changing it. Each participant would have to go through the level of variable, and only after a number of significant number of participants have gone through the variable, then data could be collected. Your stats would reflect your 100 games, and combined with the other participants from the population, would be run through a statistical test of significance to see if there is a SIGNIFICANT ability for chess players to be able to blindly tell the difference between a new opponent and a rematched opponent. 

And me not wanting to rematch you means nothing to my point. I know that I will keep losing if I play against you (the only verifiable one of your abilities you've laid claim to), I know im not going to win and I know you're only doing it because you think you're "getting" me. 

And I would accept a challenge from anyone, I don't really care about that. But realize the ridiculous comparison you're making: your rating is near professional level, while mine is amateur level. Why would I be afraid? I know the reality of our skill level. There's a difference of not wanting to lose 100 games in a row and not wanting to rematch someone of roughly equal skill level. I admit my psychological reason, I don't wish to lose 100 in a row.

Methinks you're just a coward, I don't care what you say I must be right.

Nice misrepresentation of my argument, unless you're just making an obnoxious statement.  

How is that so? You don't accept anyone's reasons for not accepting a rematch and call them cowards without providing any evidence of cowardice.

No, I think there are valid and invalid reasons. Not wanting to play another game period, or having something else to do, sure. My only point is that in a percentage of players who decline rematches that were otherwise going to play again anyway, are doing so out of cowardice. My only point is that it is, in some circumstances, one of the psychological factors in declining. 

ruikasa_real

Shorten the messages, please

winston_weng
youreacoward69 wrote:
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
winston_weng wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
Mkayluh wrote:

I’m sure this isn’t your only account. You made a new one just for this topic on the forum to spread your negative, butt-hurt ego and assume those who refuse a rematch is a coward. You’re a bad sportsmanship, buddy. And a sore loser too. Childish attitude and behaviour.

If it isn’t a new account then hey! Welcome to the site! (: please have fun and enjoy the game. I see your rating is 800, must be new. Resources this site provides is amazing. Lessons, Coaching, many more! You're definitely gonna need 'em!

Not everyone will rematch with you. Most likely not with that awful username to provoke the player and bring a bad impression!

You whine about rematching with people though you don’t want to send rematches yourself. I know this after the match we had earlier when I beat you and I had to be the one to send the rematch and you to accept so you wouldn’t seem like an idiot after everything you’ve said in this forum. Accept it, you wouldn’t accept everyone’s rematch, it’s basic human psychology. You’re not a robot obligated to follow an order of such, you hypocrite 😂

Just so you know, playing with a high-rated player is highly-beneficial in improving in most sports and subjects. Conversing plays a big part too!

Earlier, you said you don’t want to play with me because of my high-rating so does that mean if Chess paired me with you, you wouldn’t accept my challenge..? 🤔😂 You coward.

 

No, you dont photographically remember 90% of the games you've ever played, thats just not true. And if you can't do the things I've said, you DO NOT have photographic memory. Just do a google search hahah thats just not it, no matter how super special it makes you feel to keep repeating. Theres a difference between a good memory and a photographic one. You've just admitted to not having a photographic one, so just stop. You're still special though, don't worry. And maybe if you really had photographic memory you could scan a statistics textbook so you could actually learn how they're done. I'm not changing it. Each participant would have to go through the level of variable, and only after a number of significant number of participants have gone through the variable, then data could be collected. Your stats would reflect your 100 games, and combined with the other participants from the population, would be run through a statistical test of significance to see if there is a SIGNIFICANT ability for chess players to be able to blindly tell the difference between a new opponent and a rematched opponent. 

And me not wanting to rematch you means nothing to my point. I know that I will keep losing if I play against you (the only verifiable one of your abilities you've laid claim to), I know im not going to win and I know you're only doing it because you think you're "getting" me. 

And I would accept a challenge from anyone, I don't really care about that. But realize the ridiculous comparison you're making: your rating is near professional level, while mine is amateur level. Why would I be afraid? I know the reality of our skill level. There's a difference of not wanting to lose 100 games in a row and not wanting to rematch someone of roughly equal skill level. I admit my psychological reason, I don't wish to lose 100 in a row.

Methinks you're just a coward, I don't care what you say I must be right.

Nice misrepresentation of my argument, unless you're just making an obnoxious statement.  

How is that so? You don't accept anyone's reasons for not accepting a rematch and call them cowards without providing any evidence of cowardice.

No, I think there are valid and invalid reasons. Not wanting to play another game period, or having something else to do, sure. My only point is that in a percentage of players who decline rematches that were otherwise going to play again anyway, are doing so out of cowardice. My only point is that it is, in some circumstances, one of the psychological factors in declining. 

How is wanting to play another game against a different person an invalid reason. I'm pretty sure the playstyle will be different, and even if they aren't, it does have a placebo effect. So while the reason might not be logical, it can still be a valid reason as people legitimately want to play new people.

SpeckledGrill
chesstenor2018 wrote:
If you win a game against someone and they ask you for a rematch, and you don’t agree to do the rematch, then you lose and that person wins.

Shenanigans!

Max_Pomeranc

What about those players who lose badly, then play a rematch and win, then refuse the second rematch? They would rather walk off on a high, just like the first player. So are those people who lose the first rematch, are then granted a rematch, win the rematch, and depart turning down a second rematch cowards too? 

SpeckledGrill

Also gives trolls who run the clock down a whole extra game to annoy you