Infinite amount of monkeys playing chess

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ivandh
Crazychessplaya wrote:
Candypants wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INFINITY! Not even in your imagination. I dont know why we have such a stupid word.

Einstein once said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

But he was WRONG! (i know the quote is probably a joke) Give me a proof that anything is infinite. 


 Start counting the integers and tell me when you find the largest one.


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Puchiko wrote:
LordNazgul wrote:

Would an infinite number of monkeys eventually fly like birds ?


Actually, yes. I studied the Uncertainty Principle  in Physics about two months back

Basically, it means that we cannot know the time and Energy (--->location) of a particle with a minimal error at the same time. So if we focus on the time (in 10^-32 s range), we'll have a huge error in kinetic energy, so the chimpanzee can be several metres above ground-for that 10^-32 of a second. And if you think about how many particles in a chimpanzee, the stakes are even lower. But yes, with an infinite number of chimps in an infinite amount of time, they'll fly.

But- if you have an infinite amount of monkeys you have an infinite number of particles to, er, be uncertain about.

mrguy888

I think this is untrue. They would not create the immortal game before they all get crushed together because of the infinite mass.

TheGrobe

Unless they were spread perfectly evenly across infinite space....

waffllemaster

Infinite mass in an infinite space... if you have one you have other no?

rooperi
Puchiko wrote:
LordNazgul wrote:

Would an infinite number of monkeys eventually fly like birds ?


Actually, yes. I studied the Uncertainty Principle  in Physics about two months back

Basically, it means that we cannot know the time and Energy (--->location) of a particle with a minimal error at the same time. So if we focus on the time (in 10^-32 s range), we'll have a huge error in kinetic energy, so the chimpanzee can be several metres above ground-for that 10^-32 of a second. And if you think about how many particles in a chimpanzee, the stakes are even lower. But yes, with an infinite number of chimps in an infinite amount of time, they'll fly.

But will they be dead or alive?

artfizz
Candypants wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INFINITY! Not even in your imagination. I dont know why we have such a stupid word.

Einstein once said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

But he was WRONG! (i know the quote is probably a joke) Give me a proof that anything is infinite. 


http://www.mathpath.org/proof/proof.great.htm

ivandh
waffllemaster wrote:

Infinite mass in an infinite space... if you have one you have other no?


You can have a finite amount of mass in an infinitesimally small space (albeit by gravitational implosion). Since a finite area is made of infinite such spaces, you should be able to squeeze an infinite number of such spaces, each with their finite monkeys, into the finite space.

waffllemaster

Very cool :)

PrawnEatsPrawn

You can have a finite amount of mass in an infinitesimally small space (albeit by gravitational implosion). Since a finite area is made of infinite such spaces, you should be able to squeeze an infinite number of such spaces, each with their finite monkeys, into the finite space.

 

Given infinitesimally small monkeys?

Puchiko

Well, what's wrong with it? I'm no great physician, so tell me where's the crucial mistake.

I know the odds are enourmously low, but with an infinite number of particles and infinite amount of time, I'm pretty sure that chimpanzee is going to fly, for that fraction of a second.

PrawnEatsPrawn
Puchiko wrote:

I know the odds are enourmously low, but with an infinite number of particles and infinite amount of time


 

They would probably evolve and build craft capable of assisted flight.

 

Oh yeah, they did that already.

Puchiko

Evolution happens in reaction to habitat. We'd need to provide a room stimulating this specific development: i.e. the need to build a space craft.

TheGrobe
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Puchiko wrote:

I know the odds are enourmously low, but with an infinite number of particles and infinite amount of time


 

They would probably evolve and build craft capable of assisted flight.

 

Oh yeah, they did that already.


"Take your stinking pawns off me, you damned dirty ape!"

ivandh

guitarzan
gbidari wrote:

They would inevitably create "The Immortal Game." (An extention of the monkeys typing the entire works of Shakespear theory.) This view is controversial, however most scholars are in agreement that the monkeys would eventually find the four-move checkmate.


Too much time on your hands, gbidari? Wink

TheGrobe

Evidently an infinite amount.

PrawnEatsPrawn

PrawnEatsPrawn

TheGrobe

As I was saying about the forums:

TheGrobe