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Feldmm1

There is nothing wrong with being an atheist - I myself am either that or a deist - but please keep such topics to the Open Discussion Forum.

BirdBrain

Luke_Skywalker wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

Luke, if I say you don't exist, you do after all.  Hard to lie about the truth.  If you don't want to believe, fine, you can deny the truth.  But telling others God doesn't exist won't change the truth. 


Good one...


 Thanks!  I didn't know if you had ever heard it the other way around before, kind of an old saying... :-)

BirdBrain

Luke_Skywalker wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

Luke_Skywalker wrote:

BirdBrain wrote:

Luke, if I say you don't exist, you do after all.  Hard to lie about the truth.  If you don't want to believe, fine, you can deny the truth.  But telling others God doesn't exist won't change the truth. 


Good one...


 Thanks!  I didn't know if you had ever heard it the other way around before, kind of an old saying... :-)


your powers of reasoning is beyond comparison... keep it up.


 You cannot reason with someone who is unreasonable.

BirdBrain

Don't worry Luke, I won't bother with this conversation any longer.  Kind of sad to deny truth right in front of your eyes.  To call something irrational that you don't have a clue about is pretty sad.  I guess you deny all things that you have no clue about, and you make sure your opinion is voiced loudly to others.  You keep believing in nothing, and I will believe in God, and I won't respond to the next thread you leave if you choose to leave one, since it won't matter to you anyway.  Please don't make comments that you intend to answer with insults.  It is not the best practice, regardless of what we believe.

Feldmm1

Yes, please restrain yourself Luke. Show some respect. You don't have to hate someone just because they disagree with you on one issue. Please go to the Open Discussion forum I mentioned earlier for religious and political religious debate. As for BirdBrain, all I have to say is that we must agree to disagree on religion.

Feldmm1

To answer the original poster's question, I would say it is worth it. It makes you look at the world differently and probably makes you smarter.

BirdBrain

Feldmm1 wrote:

To answer the original poster's question, I would say it is worth it. It makes you look at the world differently and probably makes you smarter.


 Amen!

TheMoonwalker

Yeah, good. I hope that even though the aim is not to become the best in the world, that chess can give me something which other people lack, and in this way, it is good to play.

Thanks,

Moon...Wink

wormrose

I play chess to use my brain because I'm getting old and they say problem solving can help to postpone the onset of alzheimers - and chess is like science, art and poetry - and I like to use my brain because I don't get to use it very much on my job. 

queenofdeath

think about this $$$$$$$$$ if you play 25 hours a week...

and do so for 50 years... that's

    52 weeks times 25 = 1300 hours a year

CONSIDER ADULT FUN AVERAGE @ $10 A life hour i.e movie, bar, dinner! etc!

times 50 years times 1300 hours a year =  65,000 hours! ( wow )

 times $10 per adult fun hour x 65,000 hours! ( YOU SAVE $650,000 )

  ---- Just a new way to look at it, WE all work, but how we spend our down

time can BE EXSPENSIVE... Building your mind, and saving money doing so looks

good to me! hope at least one of you looked at this and LOL a little, I am sure

a few of you checked my match, but it's strong! may you live to play 10,000

more games of chess all!

artfizz

"if you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same" - you've learnt the lesson of chess!

TheMoonwalker

heh... cool!

Rabid_Dog

Rael wrote:

It's about as useful as taking an English degree in school so you can be a skillful poet...

Oh dear God I've wasted my life.


 Just for you Rael, a short poem

Po.

 

(With grateful thanks to the Lords Python)

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Sorry, I haven't read through the responses, but I have some thoughts.

1. Several years ago, a hedge fund advertised in Chess Life to get new employees. Clearly at the time they thought the answer was "yes". The fact that they no longer advertise, well, perhaps they are too busy spending their advertising in the poker world.

2. I'm sure all of you are amused as I am at how often some writer or some CEO makes a stupid chess analogy. So - no, running a company is not the same as finding the proper move in chess. And making an unsolicited bid for another company is not the same thing. Just because something is "strategic" doesn't mean that it relates to chess

3. That being said, I believe that I, more so than people that I am around, tend to look further into the repurcussions of some potential action. So, in that regard, chess is useful.

4. Maybe the most important one is at the early schooling stage - and I know there are some experiments on this but I am not familiar with the results. How would a grade school's performance be affected if you introduce a chess curriculum in grade 4 (for example).

Comments welcome

CyberSensei

Nothing in the world can take the place of  PERSISTENCE.

  • TALENT will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
  • GENIUS will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
  • EDUCATION will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.

Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "Press On," has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge -- 1932

If chess teaches anything, it's that success and mastery don't "Just Happen!"

BenjaminGDelaCruz

Rael wrote:

p.s. I find your lack of faith disturbing.


 Such comments are offensive. Please, in the future, refrain from saying them.

eternal21

BirdBrain wrote:

Luke, if I say you don't exist, you do after all.  Hard to lie about the truth.  If you don't want to believe, fine, you can deny the truth.  But telling others God doesn't exist won't change the truth. 


Don't confuse "truth" with "belief", and "knowledge" with "faith".  Just because you say something exists, doesn't make it so.  You need to prove it first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

AwalKB

wow, that was an extremely entertaining thread to read, considering the fact that half the posts weren't even about chess!

Rael

Mr. DelaCruz

Sheesh.

a) it was a Star Wars reference. I was talking to Luke_Skywalker.
b) what're you offended by out of curiosity... the word "faith"?
c) I'm not sure if I should say "Welcome to the internet" here, and ask you how it's been working out for you to go around asking people to politely refrain from offending you, or to say Welcome to the planet Earth.

If the sentence "I find your lack of faith disturbing" really offends you, please do not leave your house. Ever. There's a real danger that you might see and/or hear things slightly worse, and requesting that these offenses politely refrain from offending you will not be 100% effective in all instances.

Here is an article written by a doctor in Darfur about a time the Janjaweed Arab militia raped school girls in a village in Sudan I read this morning, so you actually have something real to be offended about:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article4362968.ece

p.s. I find your mental fragility disturbing

dogzilla

I think Einstein is quoted saying something like "chess is complete waste of time". I would have to both agree and disagree with this idea. The discipline and path of learning, in and of itself, could be nothing but good and useful. But sometimes if I play too much I feel like I am 'wasting time'. But can time even be 'wasted'?

I like the comment that Russians once used the game symbolically to battle capitalism, interesting.