is it too late to become a GM or at least a IM - Chess Forums - Page 2

GM JMB2010

Mar 13, 2015

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#21

Yes.

Feufollet

Mar 13, 2015

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#22

I imagine among the 2000+ players, there are differences among them..the ones who reached that level from sheer hard work and years of time investment...and the ones who've got talent and brilliance in their game and got to that level rather quickly....

I played a 1200 something player 6 months or so ago....the player was brilliant...a week later (having played not that many games) he/she was 1500+....I would not be suprised if that person broke 2000+ today...

the age of player was not listed in profile...

(or....that could have been someone who's already a GM and just signed on with chess.com... )

casual_chess_yo

Mar 13, 2015

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#23

Feufollet wrote:

I imagine among the 2000+ players, there are differences among them..the ones who reached that level from sheer hard work and years of time investment...and the ones who've got talent and brilliance in their game and got to that level rather quickly....

I played a 1200 something player 6 months or so ago....the player was brilliant...a week later (having played not that many games) he/she was 1500+....I would not be suprised if that person broke 2000+ today...

the age of player was not listed in profile...

(or....that could have been someone who's already a GM and just signed on with chess.com... )

thank you for your imagination, very instructive.

IMpatzer

Mar 13, 2015

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#24

Never to late I went to France to try for im at 52

I lost 50 games in a row they escorted me to the

Airport. ; declared me an international moron and deported me and told me never play chess in europe again!

doppelgangsterII

Mar 13, 2015

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#25

TunjiGold wrote:

I want to know is it too late for me to become grand master or at least an international master. I really work hard to become one.

Yer getting a lot of mealy mouth answers here. Just the very fact you ask the question here pretty much nails it.

If you come to a forum of snot nosed kids with an occasional tolerant greybeard willing to humor you for asking such a banal question (sorry I couldn't think of a more polite way of putting it), the Las Vegas odds of you ever reaching GM level elevate to roughly forty-three billion to one against.

I plan to risk a few nickels just on the odd chance we live in a bizzaro world and I haven't figured it out yet.

IMpatzer

Mar 13, 2015

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#26

All joking aside I met a few gms and they all have

1 thing in common. The love of the game ; they eat sleep and drink chess. Like alexander alikein they found him slumpped over a practice board in his room dead. Chess is in their heart. This is what makes those guys great. You need that love of the game plus a deep deep drive able to push oneself

To the limit.

doppelgangsterII

Mar 13, 2015

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#27

IMpatzer wrote:

All joking aside I met a few gms and they all have

1 thing in common. The love of the game ; they eat sleep and drink chess. Like alexander alikein they found him slumpped over a practice board in his room dead. Chess is in their heart. This is what makes those guys great. You need that love of the game plus a deep deep drive able to push oneself

To the limit.

Wow!! Yer joking, right?

VeeDeeVee

Mar 13, 2015

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#28

Depends how much pressure you are under

For example...if our King (Willem Alexander) says to me: " Hey VeeDeeVee, your FIDE rating has to be 2000+ in the year 2020. If not' I'll put a bullet in your useless brain".

In that case I'm sure I'll reach 2000+ easily. People can do amazing things when they're under pressure.

dwattles

Mar 13, 2015

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#29

It won't be easy but don't let that stop you. If you really want it that bad just go out and do it, best of luck.

I_Am_Second

Mar 13, 2015

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#30

IMpatzer wrote:

Never to late I went to France to try for im at 52

I lost 50 games in a row they escorted me to the

Airport. ; declared me an international moron and deported me and told me never play chess in europe again!

LOL!!!

TunjiGold

Mar 14, 2015

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#31

Thank you Jack, even if all of your answers is Yes, it's too late I will still play chess and prove all of you wrong

NewArdweaden

Mar 14, 2015

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#32

It's all about the talent in the first place - if one shows great understanding of the game early on (that is, after starting playing) then it's never too late to get a title like that.

However, if one struggles getting its game to a decent level after playing some time, one should reconsider whether goals like that are realistic.

pabrams

Mar 14, 2015

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#33

Wernher-von-Braun wrote:

Looks like my point went right over your head

Lol, no, the other guy's point went way over YOUR head.

NM TheOldReb

Mar 14, 2015

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#34

Wernher-von-Braun wrote:

Journeyman_Jim wrote:

@wvb

blitz & bullet require a different skillset, that's all i was trying to say. basically you need to blunder less often in time trouble than your opponents. while this is a good prerequisite and can come in handy in OTB games, it is by no means the most important thing. in OTB tournaments you need to be able to correctly calculate longish variations that lead to subtle differences in the position, and be able to spot this subtle differences, if you want to make it beyond "average club player". no cheapos, no premoving tricks, no funny stuff.

and while it's true that most good chess players are also at least fairly competent at blitz/bullet, the opposite doesn't hold. many internet blitzkrieg wonderkids are just hopelessly lost in a real game of chess, because they lack the patience, the subtlety and the ability to concentrate for longer than five minutes in a row.

Well if that's what you were trying to say, then why didn't you say that? Is your keyboard short-circuiting or something? I'm not a mind-reader. My response was to what you actually said, not what you are not claiming you were trying to say.

And you continue to be 100% wrong. Blitz and bullet is A LOT more than just blundering less than your opponent. Perhaps at your level of it that's all it entails...but there are many levels well above yours in which there is there is great strategy, technique, psychology, etc involved. It never ceases to amaze me how people who are not good at something purport to be experts at what it takes to exell at that something that they are not good at. You can't make this stuff up!

Let me explain something to you....the best players in the world at blitz and bullet are also the best players in the world at slow chess. Why do you think that is? If blitz and bullet were just about who blunders less in time trouble....you would have some FM or IM with lightening reflexes and excellent tactics beating the turd out of guys like Nakamura and Grischuk. But this simply isn't the case. Nakamura is routinely acknowledged as the best online bullet player in the world...and if not still the best, for sure the top 2 or 3. He is also #3 in the world in slow OTB chess. Carlsen who is the undisputed strongest player in the world, also recently won the world rapid and world blitz championships for his so-called "Triple Crown". Think about it.

Look, if you don't like blitz or bullet, that's fine. You don't have to like it. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. But don't claim to know all about chess at those time controls when you yourself have not demonstrated any ability at those time controls. It literally makes no sense at all. In my opinion, you have to be at a certain level in slow OTB before you are able to play a decent bullet game and enjoy it....maybe around 1800.

Welcome back Halimede !

indeep99

Mar 14, 2015

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#35

in my opinion you must start playing chess when you're a child if you want to reach GM level. for some reason at that age it's extremely easy to learn the game. apart from that, they have a lot of free time. I've never heard of a GM who started playing in his twenties. some people wrote they did but they never write their names.

besides, starting the game at 8 y.o. for instance, doesn't guarantee you anything. there are players who get stuck at IM.

As Fischer said once, it is really deadly. but if you really love the game you shouldn't care about these titles

bgianis

Mar 14, 2015

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#36

You can read this article http://chessok.com/?p=21207. I have some of their training programs. If you want to ask me anything about their software you can send me a pm. I willl answer as soon as I see it.

TunjiGold

Mar 14, 2015

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#37

Hello Wernher, you are not a GM or IM either. Let me aspire. It's never a crime. Even if I fail to reach out to the sky I will touch the highest mountain.

IMpatzer

Mar 14, 2015

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#38

Thx for the laugh. Lol. I thought it was funny. Not

As funny as when I left a real life tournament where

I left my clock run down to 12 minutes while I went

Around the corner for a hot and coke and stayed

On the phone with my girlfriend. Then I came back

And guy jumped up and yelled I win you only have

12 minutes on your clock. I looked at the board and I said 12 thats a good number; mate in 12 I blitzed

Him next 12 moves called mate an said ph look I still have ten minutes left on my clock can I go get another hot dog. Then he threw the board across the tournament room pieces everywhere an cursed me out . As he was leaving I told him its not a frizzebe tournament for saying that I almost got ejected too. Moral of the story chessboards don't

Make good frizzebes!

casual_chess_yo

Mar 14, 2015

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#39

TunjiGold wrote:

Thank you Jack, even if all of your answers is Yes, it's too late I will still play chess and prove all of you wrong

now look here noob, you will NEVER become a GM. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you can be at peace with yourself. Don't try to talk big now, little man, you will ALWAYS be a noob.

TunjiGold

Mar 15, 2015

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#40

Ok, Thank you Wernher