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orjanbre

Best Accept the draw or they will Just turn on the engine and beat you anyways 👍thats the Sad truth anyways .

asto0239
FireNationSokka wrote:

I have had games where people make misclicks. It is best to accept them even though you are winning?

I usually don't but someone recently then accused me of bad sportsmanship. I don't think so, but I want to hear other opinions.

1 time a misclick made me go from winning position to losing position

asto0239
orjanbre wrote:

Best Accept the draw or they will Just turn on the engine and beat you anyways 👍thats the Sad truth anyways .

TURN ON THE ENGINE ?BUT THATS CHEATING

whiteknight1968

I don't think its unsporting, but my conscience makes me feel a little guilty by winning on the basis of an obvious mouse error.

Wits-end

I still recall a game that i made an obvious misclick. My opponent ( much better than I ) realized it as such and offered a draw. I humbly accepted. We played one more and he waxed me pretty good.

Optimissed

I agree. Hope your cat is well.

Optimissed

Someone got upset at me only yesterday and went on and on and on, saying I should have accepted his draw when he misclicked.

Optimissed
Ziryab wrote:

You should only accept a draw due to a misclick when the opponent is rated higher than you.

That's quite reasonable. No point giving away points and not your fault.

premio53
whiteknight1968 wrote:

I don't think its unsporting, but my conscience makes me feel a little guilty by winning on the basis of an obvious mouse error.

Sometimes the "obvious" error isn't obvious until the move is made or until someone touches the piece and only then (after touching the piece) he realizes he screwed up and then decides to play on his opponent's conscience to unmake the blunder. Tournament rules are very strict and if a blunder is made it is on the one who makes the blunder. People who complain about the rules being "unfair" should take on a different game. No one will become succssful in tournament play if they can't think before they move. One helpful rule in OTB tournaments I was taught is write down the move you plan on making before you ever touch a piece.

blueemu
premio53 wrote:

One helpful rule in OTB tournaments I was taught is write down the move you plan on making before you ever touch a piece.

Now illegal.

I was also taught that way, but they changed the rules (in the '90s?) to make that illegal.

Whiggi

If I am a stronger player I'll allow an undo (other sites) if the mistake was obvious. However I do find when I do that people abuse it and take backs get ignored, unless clearly a misclick again.

However, in saying this that's just my personal habit... now.. if someone "misclicks" or "mouseslips"... if they're higher rated and I was losing prior to it yes I would take the draw. Again personal preference here.

However, you should never feel guilty for punishing those who make errors, as Chess is a game of war and you need to remember the hard truth, that others out there may not be so forgiving to you if you have the accident

premio53
blueemu wrote:
premio53 wrote:

One helpful rule in OTB tournaments I was taught is write down the move you plan on making before you ever touch a piece.

Now illegal.

I was also taught that way, but they changed the rules (in the '90s?) to make that illegal.

Is that FIDE or USCF rules? If the USCF changed it I'm not surprised since I haven't played in OTB tournaments since the 90's. I don't know the logic of not allowing someone to write down a move before making it though.

blueemu
premio53 wrote:
blueemu wrote:
premio53 wrote:

One helpful rule in OTB tournaments I was taught is write down the move you plan on making before you ever touch a piece.

Now illegal.

I was also taught that way, but they changed the rules (in the '90s?) to make that illegal.

Is that FIDE or USCF rules? If the USCF changed it I'm not surprised since I haven't played in OTB tournaments since the 90's. I don't know the logic of not allowing someone to write down a move before making it though.

FIDE.

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mpaetz

How can you know that it was really a "misclick" and not just a stupid blinder that the opponent saw as soon as they made it?

asto0239
TheChessInfinity wrote:
blueemu wrote:

You are not required to accept draws caused by misclicks, medical emergencies, floods, hurricanes, bubonic plague, giant meteor impact, or alien invasions.

If Godzilla attacks, however, all ongoing chess games should be declared a draw.

GODZILLA IS FAKE

That's true

Optimissed

I've noticed more and more obvious blunders in the past few days. I do as I would be done by. I never ask for sympathy and I never accept draws because they were trying to move so fast that they misclicked. They should learn to move the pieces accurately on-screen or whatever.

Metuka2004

I could give draw if it was very early and kinda obviously a castling error. But the only time recently anything came up was diffrent. I am so tired of bullet punks in Rapids and tired of patzer openings. Some guy comes in we play e4e5. Then he stops like he sees its a girl about 150 under. He plays Wayward Queen. Oy vey. Again?! I knew how to defend that. A couple moves later he slips n hangs his queen on h file. Wants draw. No way! Play patzer opening at your fingers own risk. At least he resigned after i took Q and didnt try to blitz me.

CharlestonViennaGambit

Of COURSE it is. I had the situation happen and my opponent didn't give the piece back. He then was banned from fair play, and I got my points back(TYSM!).

Does this answer your question? I didn't even accuse him of violating fair play.

AAravena
premio53 wrote:

I was playing in a tournament in Alabama back in the 80's against my best friend and he moved the wrong piece and instantly asked me if he could take back the move. I said "Jim, this is a tournament game!" When playing against him while preparing for tournaments with the touch rule in place he would constantly ask to take back moves or touch a piece and try to move something else. It became very annoying. Chess is a game where one must actually follow the rules and when the rules are broken it is on you and no one else.

Years ago I read of an incident where a GM (don't remember his name) accidently touched a piece and nonchalantly started stirring his coffee with the piece he touched before placing it back on the board. It didn't work.

lol it was his tea
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/how-viktor-korchnoi-escaped-the-touch-move-rule-unknown-stories

MariasWhiteKnight

To be honest the touch move rule doesnt make much sense.