Stig is right.....there's good, there's great, and there's legendary........I don't think Shankland is going to be anyone's favorite player in 20 years.
For someone that was ready to quit chess due to lack of opportunity. Sam has turned out to be quit a good player.
Welp, Sam is currently in Wijk Aan Zee (1st super tournament for him I think) and just resigned a drawn position against Giri in round 11. He was 4.5 out of 10 before, now 4.5 of 11. All commentators were shocked and all the chess chat is going crazy. Everybody's stunned. Which now puts Giri in a tie for 1st with Magnus when he should be half point back with 2 rounds to go. Sorry Sam, you'll make up for it.
I just looked at the game. It doesn't make sense why Sam resigned there.
Sams knight gets captured, whites bishop can defend both pawns, and the queening square is the same color as the bishop. Thats a loss for Sam.
You're right. The knight's trapped. Sam will pick up one of White's pawns. But yeah, Giri will just move his king over and zugzwang Sam and capture Black's b-pawn, and then it's all over.
Welp, Sam is currently in Wijk Aan Zee (1st super tournament for him I think) and just resigned a drawn position against Giri in round 11. He was 4.5 out of 10 before, now 4.5 of 11. All commentators were shocked and all the chess chat is going crazy. Everybody's stunned. Which now puts Giri in a tie for 1st with Magnus when he should be half point back with 2 rounds to go. Sorry Sam, you'll make up for it.
Yay for giri!
Sams king can't be forced to give up protection of his pawn without a stalemate. Sams king goes straight for c8 or a8 and theres nothing Giri can do to force him away.
Oh. Then the question is, "How come 2700 Sam didn't see that?"
Be that as it may, even though Sam is or was Magnus's second, it sets up a nice final round showdown between Anish Giri and Magnus!
I didn't get to watch the live video of it but read in the chat that Sopiko and Jan were shocked. And then people were saying she was happy (joking maybe) but trying to act impartial. Somebody even said she was doing cartwheels. I'll watch a replay when I get home. I just gotta see the video, I read Sam stormed away from the board after Giri showed him it was drawn.
At least this will be the last time a 2700 GM resigns in a drawn position.
I didn't get to watch the live video of it but read in the chat that Sopiko and Jan were shocked. And then people were saying she was happy (joking maybe) but trying to act impartial. Somebody even said she was doing cartwheels. I'll watch a replay when I get home. I just gotta see the video, I read Sam stormed away from the board after Giri showed him it was drawn.
At least this will be the last time a 2700 GM resigns in a drawn position.
If Krammnik can miss a mate in one, Sam miss a drawn position. And you are indeed correct @DamonevicSmithlov. I actually took the time to really look at the ending position, and it is a draw....or at least should be.
Sams king can't be forced to give up protection of his pawn without a stalemate. Sams king goes straight for c8 or a8 and theres nothing Giri can do to force him away. Giri said in the interview that there are numerous studies showing how its drawn, basically implying Sam hasn't studied endgames enough.
Nooooo.
This is basic endgame knowledge, even for me. I don't think Giri would be implying Shankland was unaware. He was just analyzing for the masses who may not know these things.
After many hours and days of playing, and many emotions, sometimes you can hallucinate during your calculation to see or think things that aren't true. Shankland must have imagined something that didn't exist and was too beaten down by round 11 to push past it, and in that moment he capitulated.
I would be embarrassed to resign this position... but don't worry Sam, there are spots even on the sun. Endgame books are full of champions who have done similar.
After Giri played b6 (bluffing a poker face), Shankland resigned inmediately. Yes, his knight is trapped, he can't capture white pawns, but had he calculated for two minutes, he would have find the stalemate. The lesson here is: never resign until you calculate a line til the end
no, at this point he cannot compare to Gelfand say, and certain not with Ivanchuck... Michael Adams has opening name after him, how cool is that... but winning US championship is awesome achievement yes?
When Sam declares his resignation, then there's nothing Anish can do, right?
The game is over, and that's final, yes?
There was nothing Anish could do. Why should he get karate chopped?
When Sam declares his resignation, then there's nothing Anish can do, right?
The game is over, and that's final, yes?
That's an interesting question.
FIDE is actually pretty good at having arbiters as witnesses, especially in high level events, but IF there wasn't an arbiter witness, and someone resigned, and then afterwards (before the result was recorded by the arbiter) both players agreed to a different result, then I think that would become the new result.
However I can't imagine that Giri (or any top player) would agree to a different result after their opponent resigns, and I don't imagine many on the losing side would accept pity in the form of an improved result.
People on ch*ss24 (I wanted to make sure I concealed which site I was watching on today so I didn't spell it out so everyone wouldn't know which site it was. Trying to be helpful ya know) were discussing taking a resignation back in a funny way. Giri said he asked Sam if he'd resigned so people were chatting saying Sam could've said "No. Wait, what? Just checking the clock to make sure it's alright." Something like that. It was funny just reading all of it.
That's kinda what I was imagining. Suppose Sam, upon seeing an utterly surprised look on Anish's face after saying he resigns, then says immediately afterwards, "I was just kidding! I'm not resigning" and Sam then proceeds to hastily make a move, punch his clock, and then writes the move down.
What should Anish do then, if that were to happen?
no sorry, Sam is good player but he messed up here... he threw away 4 or 5 hour hard fight with a rash moment, amateur mistake, but he will learn from...
People on ch*ss24 (I wanted to make sure I concealed which site I was watching on today so I didn't spell it out so everyone wouldn't know which site it was. Trying to be helpful ya know) were discussing taking a resignation back in a funny way. Giri said he asked Sam if he'd resigned so people were chatting saying Sam could've said "No. Wait, what? Just checking the clock to make sure it's alright." Something like that. It was funny just reading all of it.
That's kinda what I was imagining. Suppose Sam, upon seeing an utterly surprised look on Anish's face after saying he resigns, then says immediately afterwards, "I was just kidding! I'm not resigning" and Sam then proceeds to hastily make a move, punch his clock, and then writes the move down.
What should Anish do then, if that were to happen?
In top level games they don't say anything, they just stop the clock / shake hands and the meaning is understood.
But if he actually said "I resign" (unlikely)
and if there were no arbiter or witnesses to hear and see it (unlikely)
Then it's the age old case of a good liar may be able to get away with it.
That's why FIDE is different from USCF. In USCF the TD might be down the hall, having a beer. In FIDE the arbiter + assistants actually watch the games, particularly in endgames or low time situations.
no sorry, Sam is good player but he messed up here... he threw away 4 or 5 hour hard fight with a rash moment, amateur mistake, but he will learn from...
It was physical and emotional fatigue after hours of play on round 11 of a 13 round even against top players. Hard to call it an amateur mistake when no amateur alive has experienced these conditions.
Sure it was a big blunder, but made for completely different reasons than amateurs make them.
Nope. Tata Steel proves it. And what is he doing playing these openings/defenses 'they' play...he's naturally going to get outplayed because they understand them so well. I don't understand it.
Nope. Tata Steel proves it. And what is he doing playing these openings/defenses 'they' play...he's naturally going to get outplayed because they understand them so well. I don't understand it.
Yeah, it's almost as if these openings are chosen for some other reason. Maybe they're actually good or something? I guess no one knows.
And you say "proves it" except he's not at the bottom of the pack.
Stig is right.....there's good, there's great, and there's legendary........I don't think Shankland is going to be anyone's favorite player in 20 years.