Is writing notation actually REQUIRED in tournaments?

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Reshevsky wouldn't play on the Sabbath. Organizers had to work around that.

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wow. So even the top players do that to. Go figure :D.

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PHudson wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote: Well, I doubt that just ANY disability would qualify you. The rule book mentions as examples, physical handicaps, visual impairment, and religious reasons. It would be up to the TD to decide if your disability really prevents you from keeping score. Even if you qualify, the TD would probably try to get someone to keep score for you.

Does it really specify religious reasons?! I know some religions come up with crazy rules, but it's hard for me to imagine a situation where a religion would allow participation in a competitive chess tournament, but not writing down the moves! 

Yeah, it does specify religious reasons, but it doesn't give any details. Not knowing anything about this subject, my guess is that the common situations are for Orthodox Jews who aren't allowed to work on the Sabbath. Maybe some of them don't consider playing chess as work? I'd guess they're still bound by all the non-work rules, one of them being that writing is prohibited.

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Interesting, I find I play better when I have to write the moves on a scorsheet. 

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It might just be that I haven't practiced it enough then. It might be that I just don't like to do it lol. I won't sugar coat it. Eh, I'll give it another shot and see if I can write down notation while I play a game with a friend offline sometime.

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PHudson wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote: Well, I doubt that just ANY disability would qualify you. The rule book mentions as examples, physical handicaps, visual impairment, and religious reasons. It would be up to the TD to decide if your disability really prevents you from keeping score. Even if you qualify, the TD would probably try to get someone to keep score for you.

Does it really specify religious reasons?! I know some religions come up with crazy rules, but it's hard for me to imagine a situation where a religion would allow participation in a competitive chess tournament, but not writing down the moves! 

there are but and most of the rule came about due to Reshevesky. 

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ElvenPrinceLegolas wrote:

It might just be that I haven't practiced it enough then. It might be that I just don't like to do it lol. I won't sugar coat it. Eh, I'll give it another shot and see if I can write down notation while I play a game with a friend offline sometime.

Its the practice thing. I have coached a lot of kids/beginners and they all complain at first. Once you get used to it you will feel strange not doing it. Like looking for the clock when you are done with your move. It will also help you improve MUCH faster

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I see. Ok. It is decided. I'll work on practicing writing notation. I would like to thank you all for commenting on this forum and for helping me out with this decision. Thank you for your support and your constructive criticism. I need all the help I can get because my ultimate goal is to go to the World Open and compete against the top players :). I want to live that dream :).

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In some tournaments in the US that I've played, only the OPEN section is required to turn in the score sheet. The class players (U1800, U1600, U1400, etc) are not required to do so. It depends on the TD.

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Now that I do know lol.

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bobbymac310 skrev:

Interesting, I find I play better when I have to write the moves on a scorsheet. 

do you write them before or after?

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You're supposed to write the move after it is made. That's actually a rule.

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DrSpudnik wrote:

You're supposed to write the move after it is made. That's actually a rule.

I heard about this and is it true.

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kco wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:

You're supposed to write the move after it is made. That's actually a rule.

I heard about this and is it true.

It is true but for the USCF the other way is also allowed in some instances (as an allowed varian) but the TD can insist it only be done after.

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The USCF changed the rule allowing players to write the move before executing it on the board. There was such backlash that the new rule was abandoned within months.

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Dangit. I wish they'd be more active in alerting people about these changes. You have to go to their site and dig up the updates of the rules.

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If my opponent is excused from keeping score then arent I also excused so that he has " no unfair advantage " ?  

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Ziryab wrote:

The USCF changed the rule allowing players to write the move before executing it on the board. There was such backlash that the new rule was abandoned within months.

I have the 6th Edition rule book and updates in front of me. Rule 15A (Variation I) is still there which allows the notation to be made before the move. That rule is not modified in the newest revisions online either. I should clarify, this is for paper scoresheets -- 15A move first then notate is in effect all the time for electronic notation devices by that.

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Reb wrote:

If my opponent is excused from keeping score then arent I also excused so that he has " no unfair advantage " ?  

Not according to the rulebook. If there is a legitimate reason for one player to not take notation, time can be deducted from their clock to reflect they don't have to use thinking time to notate.

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Dang. I never thought my simple question would attract this much attention lol. This is all very interesting for me. Thank you all for taking the time to write your posts :).