just a Game . Not a War .. Do you agree ? and why ??

Sort:
transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

Yes, yes..The AA serenity prayer.  Stay away from the bottle.

I guess your drunkalog goes like this, "...My life was wonderful and then I met acohol!..."  You have to remember that it is alcoholism, when you are out there with all those bars, not alcoholwasm. 

transpo
Metastable wrote:

I've been waiting forever to see if my queen will undergo a spontanous decay into a rook and a bishop. So far no luck. Should I be hitting it with higher energy photons?

Let's assume for a moment that your queen is a pawn on the 8th rank.  Then if you, as the creator of the technology of chess, or a user of the technology, want it to, it can decay into a Q, R, B or even a N.  In other words, you are "God" in this 64 square 3-dimensional (forward-back, left-right, time) universe.  But, with limitations, as you have to abide by the rules of chess you created. 

In this chess 3-dimensional universe, there are no photons or higher enegy photons.  But, I will let you know that there is a theory, in our 4-dimensional universe that proposes that a collision between a photon and an electron creates time.

If you would like to read further on this here is the clickable website:

  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/04/28/deepakchopra-blog-view-525-in-physics-the-arrow-of-time-gets-bent.DTL

If you would like to know more about how and why chess is 3-dimensional physics for young and old minds, please let me know.

Metastable

And here I always thought that time was just an anthropomorphic concept, the result of the Newtonian tautology which defined it.

But the electron concept explains a lot. Assuming for the sake of argument that a watch battery is made of Lithium (atomic number 3, atomic weight roughly 7) and weighs 3 grams, we have roughly one half mole of Li atoms, or roughly 9x10^23 electrons. The life of a watch battery is roughly 2 years, or 6.3x10^7 sec. That yields roughly 0.6 x 10^-16 sec/electron. So we can see that the watch produces time by consuming electrons at this rate (within an order of magnitude or two based on composition of the battery, which in astrophysics is known as "nailing it"). The observation that time passes at different rates in different places can be explained by the change in illumination flux, i.e. the rate at which the body is moving through the photonic aether, the presence of which was conclusively demonsrtaed by Michaelson and Morely.  Also, it explains why I cannot see time advancing on my wristwatch whenthe light is off. An exciting theory to be sure!

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

Incidentally, I have found that if you buy a watch without a second hand, you can save lots of money on watch batteries.  

I was going to respond to your post #138.  But, Metastable did it for me.  He blinded you with science.

@Metastable,

I can clearly see that you get it.  Thaqnks for your post.  I get your user name (your handle) on this site.

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

uh..transpo, did you uh realize that metastable's post was a joke?

And, now the psychological ploy of divide and conquer.  Paranioa will destroy ya.  Even if he confirms that is what intended as a joke.  The reasoning and science of his post is sound.  He clearly understands as do the physicists at the LHC and Fermi Lab and every other scientists in the mainstream of cutting edge physics.

Metastable

Aww crap. Sorry, transpo, but it was meant as a bit of a spoof.

transpo
Metastable wrote:

Aww crap. Sorry, transpo, but it was meant as a bit of a spoof.

From what I read it seems you have some scientific training.  Are you in school majoring in physics, math, or engineering? Or some other source of training. 

I can tell you that the theory proposed has 3 scientific legs on which to rest that flat table top of the theory.  If you don't believe me please let me know and I will post the scientific references from mainstream research facilities at the cutting edge of this science.  Then again if you have scientific training you are either aware of this theory or you are quite capable of finding the citations that I mentioned.

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

Incidentally, I have found that if you buy a watch without a second hand, you can save lots of money on watch batteries.  

Incidentally, nay sayers have been proven wrong many times throughout history.  The airplane, space travel, all the planets revolve around the sun, the earth is spherical not flat,  you get the picture right.  But you go on with your bad self.   

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

transpo - You read that post that said "a watch produces time" and couldn't recognize that it was a joke.  What makes you think you understand anything about physics?  You didn't understand the point of the article that you posted earlier (like not remotely close, either).  

Words are like crystals, you turn them one way and they mean one thing, turn them another way, and they mean something completely different. 

You wish you had the scientific training I have.  I have 9 initials after my name 2 of them PhDs which I choose not to initialdrop (name drop).  But, I have 3 aditional initials after my name PSD.  Those initials put me on an even pa with you.  PSD (Professional Shit Disturber.)  You may not like it but because you are a human being that speaks in a symbolic language and are irrational you are a PSD by default.  If you think you can deny it then you can't take a joke and f**k you..    Or maybe not, that is probably why you make assinine comments about a subject you haven't got a clue about.

bigpoison

These, "I'm more highly educated than you," arguments always remind me of the "my life's been so much rougher than yours."

Yup, life's hard and most of us have had to go to school.  La-te-da.

zborg
[COMMENT DELETED]
zborg

God invented time so that everything can't happen at once.  Laughing

FYI, Norman Schofield at Washington University (St. Louis) has five Ph.D.s, but who is counting?  Lots of his work on chaotic attractors, politics, and climate change is available for free on his webpage.

http://polisci.wustl.edu/norman_schofield

He's a mathematical economist and game theorist, inter alia, working in the tradition of Hyman Minsky.

Metastable

Transpo,

I think joey picked up on the key phrase: "a watch produces time". It was mean to be an hommage to the "dark sucker" joke that most physics undergrads get exposed to at some point. (google it...). I'll be a little more explicit, since it's sort of interesting in a twisted way. The concepts I proposed all fly so egregiously in the face of accepted physics I thought it would be a slam dunk.

The Michaelson-Morely experiment actually concluded the exact opposite of what I said - it showed that there is in fact *no* static aether flux prodcing any measurable effect on spacetime, since the speed of light was in fact measured as constant in all directions, both in the same direction as, and perpendicular to, the earth's motion through the supposed aether. M-M really laid the experimental evidence for the idea that c is invariant, hence time and space must be relative, not the other way around.

The idea that one "consumes" electrons in an atom violates conservation of charge and/or energy. Removing that half mole of Lithium electrons from the positively charged nucleii they're bound to would require insane amounts of energy - many orders of magnitude more than the piddly amount of conventional chemical/electical energy stored in the battery. While the more esoteric aspects of physics are debatable, I think this point would be agreeable to most.

And of course, in keeping with Occam's razor, the idea that I don't see the time advancing on my watch when the lights are off hardly requires quantum physics to explain...

But in all seriousness, my first statement, about the nature of time, was not meant in jest. What we percieve as time is really a concept used in two ways. Firstly, "regular people" mean time as an observed phenomenon of unknown nature, which is codified in our human thinking according to a social interpretation and framework- hardly a rigorous scientific tool. Secondly, physicists use the idea of time according to the axioms encoded in the basic "laws of physics" such as F=ma. But what's not widely appreciated is that most of these laws are really *definitions* and as such are tautological and hence irrefutable - not because they're correct, but because a definition (in a mathematical sense, at least) cannot be anything other than true. So while "time" is generally seen as a well defined concept orthogonal to space in some Newtonian sense, it is in actual fact still just a purely human, boot-strapped idea. Mass is defined in terms of acceleration which is defined in terms of time which is defnined in terms of mass and distance. Circular. While this doesn't make it less useful for day-to-day work in physics, it makes you realize that the concept of time is still not as absolute and as cut and dried as it may be percieved to be. So with both of those views casting doubt (at least in my mind) as to what "time" really is, I felt it was fair game...

I'm certainly interested to learn more of the current thinking about this, though.

BR

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

There is no way that you have a Ph.D. in anything and almost nobody has two Ph.D.'s.  In my life in and out of academia I know exactly one person with two Ph.D.'s (and he was a spoiled little rich kid with trust funds who decided that being a student was too much fun to stop doing).  

As always I am willing to bet.  In this area of huge information asymmetry accruing to you, I am still willing to bet at very impressive odds....

Ok, one the PhDs is in business.  The other is in science. 

You know for a guy who chickened out of playing against me on Firepower8's topic post, you sure are an avid debater on other subjects.  Maybe you should take up another game, something to do with debate.  Not chess, however.  You suck at that.   

bigpoison

Mitt plays at chess.com!

Alert Eric, as he's missing a terrific marketing opportunity.

bigpoison

Jokin', joey.  Callin' you Mitt.  $10,000 bet.  Must not have been that funny.

It's been my experience that the smaller the dollar amount of a wager, the more likely it is that the loser will actually pay.

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:
transpo wrote:
joeydvivre wrote:

There is no way that you have a Ph.D. in anything and almost nobody has two Ph.D.'s.  In my life in and out of academia I know exactly one person with two Ph.D.'s (and he was a spoiled little rich kid with trust funds who decided that being a student was too much fun to stop doing).  

As always I am willing to bet.  In this area of huge information asymmetry accruing to you, I am still willing to bet at very impressive odds....

Ok, one the PhDs is in business.  The other is in science. 

You know for a guy who chickened out of playing against me on Firepower8's topic post, you sure are an avid debater on other subjects.  Maybe you should take up another game, something to do with debate.  Not chess, however.  You suck at that.   

Chickened out?  I think I:

a) Told you to challenge me to play it

b) Told you I would be glad to play it for whatever amount of money you mentioned.

So what's the bet on those two Ph.D.'s?  I'd be happy to bet you $10,000 that you do not have two Ph.D.'s....

So, let's see we'll read posts and see what others conclude.

From topic:What in the World?  The most unclear middlegame position ever?  Part #1

Firepower8 wrote:

darn it, it turns out you cant challenge another to play certain FEN positons :((((, ok just play it out here in the thread 1.ne4 is moved  by transpo, joey what is your move, take your time!

joeydvivre wrote:

Hmm...Can't challenge FEN's....so figure out a move order that gets to this position and use conditional moves.  Laughing

What's wrong can't get your houdini chess engine or whatever chess engine you are using, to work without it being a game and not get caught by chess.com using an engine, eh!

transpo wrote:

Firepower8 wrote:

darn it, it turns out you cant challenge another to play certain FEN positons :((((, ok just play it out here in the thread 1.ne4 is moved  by transpo, joey what is your move, take your time!

Ok, let' just have fun getting to the "truth" in the position.  That is what attracted me to chess in the first place.  There are very few places in life where you can get to the "truth" and hold it in your mind, and look at it, like you can in a chess position on the board.  The feeling of exhiliriation is indescribable.  And, it makes you want to do it again just to get that feeling of discovery back again.  It is what drives me now.

So, let's have fun.  What d'ya say?  

joeydvivre wrote:

Yeah let's have fun and get to the truth.  Play the game for money.  Too hard for me to play it blindfold though.

transpo wrote:

I am a "professional gunslinger."  I only play for money in rated USCF and FIDE tournaments. 

Set up the position on your chess board.  This is just for fun so you can move the pieces and pawns around when your analyzing the position to make your next move. Don't have to play bindfold. 

 So, joeydvivre (joie de vivre), be a "bon vivant" and let's have fun.

joeydvivre wrote:

transpo wrote:

I am a "professional gunslinger."  I only play for money in rated USCF and FIDE tournaments. 

Set up the position on your chess board.  This is just for fun so you can move the pieces and pawns around when your analyzing the position to make your next move. Don't have to play bindfold. 

 So, joeydvivre (joie de vivre), be a "bon vivant" and let's have fun.

hehe..."professional gunslinger"...sure.  Well, I'm your chickadee

And, the big chicken joeydvivre has managed to change the subject and sneak out of playing a strong player one on one to save himself the embarrassment f losing, especially in front of his buddy Firepower8.

bigpoison

I've got ten grand on joey! 

Based entirely off of tt rating.

transpo
joeydvivre wrote:

Which part of I'm willing to play whenevr you want don't you get? 

You are a very stupid person transpo....

I'm sorry you feel that way.  I have reported you to chess.com staff and I have blocked you.  Smell you much, much, later, hopefully never. 

Gigatt78

there are players who insult and discriminate their opponents even the country where they belong.  is it the kind of psychological war anyone talking about.  this is just a game, if they believe they should hate their opponents in order to win and destroy others' concentration, they are not a good chess players but a pschotic.