Lack of Chess Etiquette.

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RJones65

If you're doing any of this, you're neither a lady, a gentleman nor a scholar. 

1. Cheating- This goes without saying. Hey, there's no money involved here, at least not that I know of, but many cheat. Total lunacy. If you want to cheat become a politician, there's money in that. 

2. You're at the end of the game, you're winning and instead of your opponent resigning like the beaten player they are, they walk and let the time lapse. Be a real man or a woman and just resign. You're not slick, or funny, you're a coward. 

3. Pawn promotion. This one drives me crazy. You know, the player who can clearly and easily win with what they have, but wants to promote all their pawns. Do it to me, and I guarantee you'll be watching a clock. 

4. Never offering a gg or good game at the end of the match. This seems to have gone by the wayside lately. Is everyone just angry and hates each other now? 

5. Asking for a draw at the start of the match. Really? Please stop doing this. Just abort or resign. I know you have things to do. Take the loss, etc. 

Feel free to add your frustrations to this list. 

oPAWNo

You wrote all that why?

jjlegato

Isn't your point no. 3 in contradiction with the point no. 2? Shouldn't you resign yourself (instead of watching the clock) if your opponent is in position where they can promote all their remaining pawns to queens and therefore is clearly winning?
At least, this is my takeway from your point no. 2 about resigning in lost position.

TheBlunderingBiscuit
Last line of Point 3 invalidates the whole post.
Looks like OP lost some games and needed to vent.

Anyway, enjoy playing and have fun. It’s just a game.
RJones65
jjlegato wrote:

Isn't your point no. 3 in contradiction with the point no. 2? Shouldn't you resign yourself (instead of watching the clock) if your opponent is in position where they can promote all their remaining pawns to queens and therefore is clearly winning?
At least, this is my takeway from your point no. 2 about resigning in lost position.

No, not at all because many times the person winning is not trying to promote all of his pawns once they know they are clearly going to get a win. They are just trying to win the game. Not trying to be a wiseguy. They are either waiting for the person to resign or to get a CM. 

RJones65
TheBlunderingBiscuit wrote:
Last line of Point 3 invalidates the whole post.
Looks like OP lost some games and needed to vent.

Anyway, enjoy playing and have fun. It’s just a game.

No, sorry, it doesn't invalidate the whole post. Read my response to jjlegato for a better understanding. You're right though. I did lose a game where some jerk tried to promote their remaining pawns before I wrote this. We write and vent about things that bother us. It's human nature, not a bad thing. 

CraigIreland

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

AussieMatey

Players can promote all their pawns if they want to. It just gives you more chance of a stalemate - you should relish it. I wouldn't do it, because I don't want to win a game in 70 moves if I can win it in 40.

magipi
CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule.

Those rules of etiquette only apply to other players. If he himself breaks them, that's completely fine. Even a noble act of justice.

jjlegato
RJones65 wrote:

No, not at all because many times the person winning is not trying to promote all of his pawns once they know they are clearly going to get a win. They are just trying to win the game. Not trying to be a wiseguy. They are either waiting for the person to resign or to get a CM. 

 

So, what's your 2nd point about then? You wrote that if a player finds himself in a hopelessly lost position, they should be a man/women about it and just resign. And correct me if I am wrong, but allowing your opponent to promote all their remaining pawns to queens doesn't sound like a position you would be able to win (most of us wouldn't), although, yes, there is a theoretical chance of your opponent stalemating you if they are clumsy.
I still do think there is a contradiction between these two rules.

RJones65
CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

People who break etiquette do not deserve etiquette in return. If you bully a bully it is not bullying. It is defense. These aren't rules. What is so stringent about not cheating, not being a jerk? 

RJones65
jjlegato wrote:
RJones65 wrote:

No, not at all because many times the person winning is not trying to promote all of his pawns once they know they are clearly going to get a win. They are just trying to win the game. Not trying to be a wiseguy. They are either waiting for the person to resign or to get a CM. 

 

So, what's your 2nd point about then? You wrote that if a player finds himself in a hopelessly lost position, they should be a man/women about it and just resign. And correct me if I am wrong, but allowing your opponent to promote all their remaining pawns to queens doesn't sound like a position you would be able to win (most of us wouldn't), although, yes, there is a theoretical chance of your opponent stalemating you if they are clumsy.
I still do think there is a contradiction between these two rules.

They should resign when their opponent is playing fair and not being a jerk trying to promote all of their remaining pawns. I don;t know how much clearer I can be. Personally, for me I'll allow two rooks, two queens, but once I see another pawn coming down they'll watch the clock. I believe that's more than fair. 

jjupiter6

These rules of etiquette which largely exist nowhere apart from internet forums are great.

llama36
RJones65 wrote:

you're neither a lady nor a gentleman 

Then what the heck am I tongue.png

BlueHen86
jjlegato wrote:

Isn't your point no. 3 in contradiction with the point no. 2? Shouldn't you resign yourself (instead of watching the clock) if your opponent is in position where they can promote all their remaining pawns to queens and therefore is clearly winning?
At least, this is my takeway from your point no. 2 about resigning in lost position.

That was my first thought as well.

RJones65
jjupiter6 wrote:

These rules of etiquette which largely exist nowhere apart from internet forums are great.

They exist, but you have had to play at least four or five in person games. In some areas of the world, you play a stupid game, you win a stupid prize.

llama36
RJones65 wrote:
jjupiter6 wrote:

These rules of etiquette which largely exist nowhere apart from internet forums are great.

They exist, but you have had to play at least four or five in person games. In some areas of the world, you play a stupid game, you win a stupid prize.

People who commit murder over a chess game are not sane, much less role models.

BlueHen86
RJones65 wrote:
CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

People who break etiquette do not deserve etiquette in return. If you bully a bully it is not bullying. It is defense. These aren't rules. What is so stringent about not cheating, not being a jerk? 

 You can't control what your opponent does, only what you do. If etiquette is important to you then you should always exhibit it.  

RJones65
llama36 wrote:
RJones65 wrote:
jjupiter6 wrote:

These rules of etiquette which largely exist nowhere apart from internet forums are great.

They exist, but you have had to play at least four or five in person games. In some areas of the world, you play a stupid game, you win a stupid prize.

People who commit murder over a chess game are not sane, much less role models.

They were sane once, then they played a person who tried to promote all of their pawns. Lol.

 

CraigIreland

If you're looking to bully bullies and just occasionally misjudge someone then you're proliferating the problem you care so passionately about. This is just one example of why we should not try to play God.