Magnus Carlsen is an embarrassment

I don't know. My parents aren't very much into buying cards so I only had like 20. I know the value but I can see the logic. Selling something for 15 dollars which is really worth less than the packaging...

And none of my friends are into it anymore. Its all fortnite and that shooting stuff. 

I miss 7 years ago.

I have 20. I started with 5 and traded my way to around 20.

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It seems to me that it's the pro Carlsen camp that's in denial of all this, and I can't understand why. Maybe they think this short match and rapid/blitz tie breaks favored Carlsen and that the outcome is proof of his superiority? I'm sure that Carlsen would have dramatically altered his approach to a 24 game match, and maybe Caruana would have won … who gives a F___! This match was a debacle … an absolute pile of manure; and the requisite of imbecility for a Magnus Carlsen fan boy to call those wishing for a 24 game match format - butt hurt Caruana fans - absolutely baffles me. This is not the NFL or NBA. I'm sure most of us were rooting for a good match and were not emotionally invested in which player won. The level of idiocy here is pathetic, shameful, and reflects very poorly on chess and people who play chess. Culturally, chess as an aesthetic, artistic, and scientific endeavor has all but totally deteriorated and has been so much reduced to a sport, that these degenerates actually think people would be "butt hurt" because Caruana lost! Oh yeah … we're sore losers and that's why we want a 24 game match, because it favors our guy. (sarcasm intended)

One of the two players must repeatedly be put into positions in which he is bad at, or uncomfortable … whatever isn't his forte. This is what it requires for a decisive result. This is achieved through thorough analysis of both opponents. The result of a world chess championship match should be the culmination of superior pre-match analysis of the opponent and practical skills. We didn't get this. We got a crap shoot.

This is how 24 game matches produce a result: one player is more often than the other, put into a position to defend and cracks.

This doesn't happen in 12 games.

This doesn't happen in rapid/blitz tie breakers.

Besides the fact that faster time controls shouldn't determine the world chess champion of slower time controls, what rapid and blitz tie breakers produce is/are random blunder/s, and low quality of chess which then determines the outcome.

Best way to solve this on going rant about Magnus Carlsens way of the championship has two outcomes.

Guys who think Magnus is not the winner- Take him on you self and see if you can beat him.

or. Send a mail to FIDE telling them that their rules are wrong because you say so.

Magnus won within the rules of FIDE and is therby the World champion

OHH how grown up you are.......

Accepting FIDE rules does not make me a bad person. does it?

As i said, if you want to change the rules of the championship contaact FIDE. they are the only one who can do anything about it. Right?

I've already stated that Magnus Carlsen should have had draw odds, that there shouldn't have even been a tie breaker.

a 6-6 tie is good enough for Carlsen to remain world chess champion.

I would appreciate it if the match was 24 games, though, instead of 12.

Now all you fanboys need to get over it. Chess is more important than Magnus Carlsen. All the world chess champions and challengers combined are smaller than chess. It's as if the problem with you and all you Norwegians is that you think the purpose of chess is to serve your patriotism through Magnus Carlsen. Just because you would have been butt hurt had Caruana won, doesn't mean that the rest of us are idiotic fanboys.

If this keeps up, I'm going to start cleaning my rump with a Norway flag.

If Caruna won it would be great for the Chess, no doubt about that, and yes maybe there should be 6-6 in this match and no tiebrake. But again FIDE has their rules.

Magnus did not play as well as he have done the other matches, but still since the rules are as they are, He is still in the lead. But for the Chess as a sport, yes there should be more of a change in the top, it would benefited Chess in the long term.

You're getting too stuck on the title of the thread and you don't seem to realize that the point is independent of mine or ForgottenAmericans's opinion of Carlsen.

Well i do not see a problem with any of the top player of chess, and if Fide change the rules maybe Carlsen will loose the next match, and i would not care, What i think has been wrong with thi tread is the constant " I know better then you"  attitude.  Before any of us can Challenge the WC then we should just enjoy each game and learn from it. It does not matter from what country the Champion come from as long we enjoy the chess

Stupid post. This guy’s argument is essentially that Magnus is world champion so no one can question his behavior or choices because he is a superior chess player to us. 

That is of course nonsense. By that logic no one would ever be able to question or discuss sports, cooking, politics, literature, or anything else because there is always someone better than them at all of those topics

Kjetil_Amanaki is making my case for me.

In his piss ant brain, wanting a 24 game match or having a problem with FIDE rules equates wanting Magnus Carlsen to lose; instead of just wanting a better match.

What he said is valid. Everyone is just arguing with each other, just leave this thread alone now. We all have our own opinions and looking at things, those opinions aren't gonna change. This is like arguing over religion, no-one's opinion is better than anyone else's. Keep yourself to yourself. The end.

With this philosophy, messages boards don't exist.

Haha amazing comments here. Exactly. This guy thinks that just because Magnus won the World Championship means that we can't propose better conditions for a better match. It's fanboyism at its finest. Very funny stuff.

Ofcourse the match can be done in a different way. I dont mind if other can be the best at the Championship. 

To all the Americans in here.

If it was Caruana who had done what Magnus chose to do in the 12th match, would you still be angry for it? I mean if Caruana did what Carlsen did and actually won the Championship?

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Nobody is mad that Carlsen won. They are mad that all 12 games were drawn and some people are mad that Carlsen offered a draw in a better position just to get to tie breakers. People are mad that the length of the match caused both players to play cowardly.

Ah yes, after all the pointless bickering it's good to hear the incisive thoughts of a member of the legal profession