Of course there are stalemates , repitition, and 50 moves w/out pawn moves...
Magnus Carlsen is an embarrassment
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Nov 27, 2018
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#103
K_Brown wrote:
OH OH OH look at me! Look at me! I'm going to trash talk someone on the internet to make me feel better about myself.
Big words, low self-esteem.
Pot calling kettle black?
Nov 27, 2018
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#104
Laskersnephew wrote:
" but if it is true then Magnus obviously deserves a lifetime FIDE ban similar to the 1919 Black Sox scandal”
I'm sure you're just a bit over-excited, but that is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Did Magnus conspire to throw the match? No. Did he conspire to throw game 12? No. Did he have a winning position in game 12? No. He had an advantage. Period.
Magnus made the decision that he had a better chance of winning in the tie breaks than by trying to convert his advantage in game 12. In other words, he took what he felt was his very best chance of winning the match and retaining the world championship. If you do your best to win, according to the rules of the contest, I can't seen any basis for an ethical complaint
Your reading comprehension skills are not good.
A poster had claimed that she thought Magnus was bribed by gamblers to rig the outcome of the match. I said if that’s true (which I doubt it is) that he would deserve a lifetime ban. That’s hardly a controversial statement
Bonesy1116 wrote:
I like many others think the WCC should go back to 24 games. That being said, I'm about 90% certain we are at 12 games because of the cost of running the match. I highly doubt it's because the organizers think it would be more exciting for the fans as some have said. So, raise some more money and go to 24 games. Pay the participants less, or do FIDE officers get a percentage? I think the fans will appreciate that more.
What's the cost of running the match? Isn't it being held at a very small place, with about 400 spectators, a couple dozen reporters, and a broken coffee maker? It seems like the only way to run it for less is to do it for free.
I don’t see what the problem is. Carlsen takes less of a risk in the playoffs because the number of games gives him room for error, and he’s thought to be stronger than Caruana in shorter time controls. Also, if he can get Caruana out of his (so far excellent) prep, the challenger will have less time to study the position.
Nov 27, 2018
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#107
staples13 wrote:
K_Brown wrote:
OH OH OH look at me! Look at me! I'm going to trash talk someone on the internet to make me feel better about myself.
Big words, low self-esteem.
Pot calling kettle black?
Nothing I said was presumptuous. This topic and the original post shows poor character in general.
It is literally impossible for any human being to call out someone else’s character without being somewhat hypocritical. You can focus on that miniscule detail, or take it and focus on improving. The choice is ultimately up to the individual.
Nov 27, 2018
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#108
>If you disagree and think I'm dumb you're free to let me know as well <
Disagreeing with the topic is one thing. Insulting posters for agreeing with it is another. The latter does not support any arguments for the former. It just reflects on you.
Nov 27, 2018
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#109
staples13 wrote:
Magnus Carlsen is an absolute joke. The man has absolutely no heart whatsoever.
Tie score going into the final game of the World Chess Championship and he gets a big advantage and instead of trying to convert it offers a draw. Where’s the competitive drive? Where’s the belief in himself? Can you imagine Fischer or Kasparov offering a draw in that position?
Just disgusting behavior by a reigning world champion. No respect for competition whatsoever. I hope Caruana destroys him in the tiebreak. It would serve him right.
I have given my thoughts, and now it’s your turn chess.com. Was this the most disgusting behavior by a reigning champion in world chess championship history?
you're being extremely rude and disrespectful to him, apologize to the entire chess community, you have embarrassed urself more than Magnus. btw, I think he offered a draw b/c he wanted him to have another chance, like in life. true, chess is about giving people no mercy, but you really have to insert the context to have a good grasp of Magnus's actions
Nov 27, 2018
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#110
christophedickey wrote:
If you ever watch the Magnus Carlsen documentary and paid attention to today game I believe this was no surprise. Since he played his first international tournament, feel anxiety in very important game when feel under pressure and sometime does blunder, and if you paid attention before he offers a draw, Caruana was able to take an exit on his attack, so probably in that case lot of inactive pieces become active and then he knows the game can change easily, so instead of feeling a very hard pressure that might push him to a blunder in game 12, he rather win it in blitz.
I feel Magnus Carlsen show great strength by doing so, this means he understands his own capacity in the actual situation and manages to bring an option that is likely winning for him.
However; Magnus Carlsen will be studied further and I believe in that case he is most likely not gonna win the next world championship.
I feel Magnus Carlsen show great strength by doing so, this means he understands his own capacity in the actual situation and manages to bring an option that is likely winning for him.
However; Magnus Carlsen will be studied further and I believe in that case he is most likely not gonna win the next world championship.
I agree. He shows remarkable flexibility to be able to have compassion in this type of situation
Nov 27, 2018
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#111
While a variety of factors may have contributed to Carlsen’s draw offer, I don’t think compassion was one of them.
Nov 27, 2018
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#112
themaskedbishop wrote:
While a variety of factors may have contributed to Carlsen’s draw offer, I don’t think compassion was one of them.
right, not the best adjective right now
Nov 27, 2018
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#114
K_Brown wrote:
staples13 wrote:
K_Brown wrote:
OH OH OH look at me! Look at me! I'm going to trash talk someone on the internet to make me feel better about myself.
Big words, low self-esteem.
Pot calling kettle black?
Nothing I said was presumptuous. This topic and the original post shows poor character in general.
It is literally impossible for any human being to call out someone else’s character without being somewhat hypocritical. You can focus on that miniscule detail, or take it and focus on improving. The choice is ultimately up to the individual.
The irony is that you called out my character you hypocrite
Nov 27, 2018
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#115
It's always the same thing, here and everywhere else. A few people argue the point, and everyone else attacks each other. Somehow they are convinced that insulting someone supports a contrary opinion.
Nov 27, 2018
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#116
Awesome60 wrote:
you're being extremely rude and disrespectful to him, apologize to the entire chess community, you have embarrsssed urself more than Magnus. btw, I think he offered a draw b/c he wanted him to have another chance, like in life. true, chess is about giving people no mercy, but you really have to insert the context to have a good grasp of Magnus's actions
I will not apologize. Not to Magnus or anyone else. Magnus owes the chess community an apology. What he did was make an absolute mockery of fair play, competition, and the world chess championship.
Do you all remember a few years back at the Olympics when those two badminton players spent the entire match trying to lose to each other so as not to have to face as difficult of an opponent in the next round. Do ou know what the IOC did to them. They removed them both from the competition for not honoring the competitive tradition of the Olympics, and deservedly so. What Magnus did was no different.
Fact of the matter is Magnus and Fabiano agreed to this match to play to the best of their ability and in return they receive a pool of 1 million dollars in compensation. Magnus did not perform to the best of his abilities instead he tookthe cowards way out. He let down the sponsors, the customers, and everyone inbetween. It’s an embarrassment and he’s a disgrace
Nov 27, 2018
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#117
To each their own (to an extent).
Post the forced line that leads to a win if you are so sure. Or maybe there is no such thing...
Maybe chess is a tad more complex than badminton.
How do you measure heart in chess? Taking chances that aren't necessary? That's not heart if you lose for the spectator. It's "stupid". The outcome of the game is the only thing people look at. If they had played the game out and achieved a draw, this post would of still happened in one form or another. Any result other than Magnus winning results in a post like this. It's ridiculous. We should just give the championship to the challenger, right? They shouldn't have to earn it... Or maybe the challenger is so bad at chess that Magnus should beat him every time he has any sort of advantage...
Misusing terms like heart and other characteristics based on the outcome of a complex game that depends on obscure factors like mental fatigue, physical status, etc... that you have no way of knowing is a strawman argument to begin with.
ok...
He's an embarrassment.
Of pandas!
Don't both players have to agree to have a game drawn, not just one ?
Usually. But not always.