Match Carlsen-Anand in trouble?

  • #301

    They are shifting the venue, it seems. 

  • #302
    Freitag_Friday wrote:

    Hi!  I have a little anecdote that really is insignificant and proves nothing but I will tell it anyway.

    Last night I went to my local corner liquor store/market that is owned by a nice family from India.  I asked them if they heard of Chennai, and what they thought about it.  Both the husband and wife looked horrified and said "no no no, don't go to Chennai, it's not a nice place."  When I asked them for details they said it was basically the worst city in India and that people that go there should really "know somebody" there or else they would get into trouble.

    Of course this may be just regionalism at play (like these two might have been from a "rival region") but still, these Indians that I know and talk to almost every day made Chennai out to be something of the "Detroit" of India (no offense to Detroit).

    What two people say isn't really significant but I thought it was interesting.  And of course, I asked them about Chennai after having read these posts here.

     

    hmm...that's strange. i hv been in tamil nadu state(capital-chennai) for four years(and roamed in chennai quite a few times too) but never heard a similar decription of the city either here, or before i came here.

  • #303

    its indeed strange..i hear mostly good things, i have not heard bad things about chennai, apart from weather being extremely hot and humid. but it will be better in november, and the players aren't exactly playing in the open street.

  • #304

    I guess anand also can say anything about other place later. I don't think playing in chennai will make anand advantage at all. Its even far stress to play in hometown and with title to held. If your really world champ you would play anywhere with any condition. Don't just choose place your favourable. When fisher vs spassky for wc.. he won tremendously despite all factor that not favourable for him like cameras focusing when he play.. he still played eventhough its really annoying for him. I think carlsen team should take the challenge like fisher did

  • #305

    dude way to many concessions were made to fischer, first they removed rows upon rows of seats, then there was actually a game played in a back room, and finally he had them bring in a different set and chairs from another country.

  • #306

    Other litle known concessions to Fischer:

    1. The chief arbiter had to be refererred to as "Nurse Ratchet"

    2. Spassky had to pretend to stutter.

    3. In no contracts or written agreements was it permissible to use the letter "M".

    4. Craziest of all, Spassky agrred to not excercise his right to a rematch until 20 years had passed.

  • #307
    Ubik42 wrote:

    Other litle known concessions to Fischer:

    1. The chief arbiter had to be refererred to as "Nurse Ratchet"

    2. Spassky had to pretend to stutter.

    3. In no contracts or written agreements was it permissible to use the letter "M".

    4. Craziest of all, Spassky agrred to not excercise his right to a rematch until 20 years had passed.


    Too funny and I'm a fischer fan lol

  • #308

    I've never been to India, but my friends who travel extensively say Chennai is the best city in India for a business traveler. 

    The issue isn't about Chennai's suitability, it's about following the long-established process of open bidding and awarding the match to the highest bidder who can meet the conditions.

  • #309

    I think Howard Wallowitz should be the arbiter

  • #310

    Here's a link to the original story that Wikipedia mentions:

    http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4009535/mou-signed-for-world-championship-in-chennai-200413.aspx

    And here's a copy of the FIDE memorandum that is mentioned:

  • #311
  • #312

    If allowed, this would actually put Chennai at a distinct disadvantage compared to other cities.

    Chennai, based on promises already made, submitted an open bid to FIDE. Any city can now top that bid. If Chennai wishes to hold the World Championship, they will have to increase their bid, which is unfair. They followed the rules.

  • #313

    and a new bid is just in place from paris..the game is on Laughing

  • #314
    alec86 wrote:
    New York would be a better choice or Montreal we have cold weather and so much snow in the winter were buried up to the knees.

    Buried. Up to the knees.

  • #315
    SmyslovFan wrote:

    If allowed, this would actually put Chennai at a distinct disadvantage compared to other cities. Chennai, based on promises already made, submitted an open bid to FIDE. Any city can now top that bid. If Chennai wishes to hold the World Championship, they will have to increase their bid, which is unfair. They followed the rules.

    To begin with, as was stated in FIDE's own press release

    "AICF would be given a first option of three months following the match in Moscow"

    http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId/211/PostId/4009418/breaking-world-championship-2013-in-chennai-090413.aspx

    Ten months after the Moscow match (seven months too late) came the bid. Nothing in the "rules" say the bid had to be open. FIDE's bidding rules rather say the opposite. So no, Chennai didn't follow any special "rules", they were just given the match the same week Carlsen won the Candidates, when people had started wondering when FIDE would start the bidding process. Paris said they offer more money, and they also have a long history of organizing top events (since before they held Morphy-Anderssen). FIDE might still stick to Chennai and refuse Paris the possibility of having their bid evaluated, but they won't find it easy to get out of this mess without problems.

  • #316
    barndoor101 wrote:

    This all sounds to me like Carlsen throwing a Fischer.

    OK.

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