My nephew beat HOUDINI?!?!

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shepi13

I don't think there's any if in this thread.

C-nack
johnyoudell wrote:

Freud said that everyone in your dreams is you. So (if you accepted that idea) you might conclude that you have some fear of failure active at the moment.

If everyone in my dream is me then that would mean I'm Carlsen, not that I have a fear of failure.

bigpoison
naturalproduct wrote:

Waffle:

Correct. That and there is the English guy who can draw a perfect picture of Rome after a 1/2h helicopter tour. He just can't apply the gift to anything else. Memory of who played third base in the 1909 world series is nice, but Rainman (who passed away last year??) couldn't apply that memory towards a useful goal.

O'Leary played the hot corner for the Tigers.  Dunno who fielded the position for the Buccos.  Hell, I've only got the idiot part down.  Still workin' on that savant thing.

trysts
bigpoison wrote:
naturalproduct wrote:

Waffle:

Correct. That and there is the English guy who can draw a perfect picture of Rome after a 1/2h helicopter tour. He just can't apply the gift to anything else. Memory of who played third base in the 1909 world series is nice, but Rainman (who passed away last year??) couldn't apply that memory towards a useful goal.

O'Leary played the hot corner for the Tigers.  Dunno who fielded the position for the Buccos.  Hell, I've only got the idiot part down.  Still workin' on that savant thing.

There is a video of Jerry Seinfeld and Michael Richards(Kramer) where they meet for coffee. Kramer talks about playing some homeless man in chess who beats him rather quickly. He asks a professional chess player about it, and the pro tells him that he played a savant. The pro said that no one can beat them but they don't play tournaments because of their unpredictable behaviour.

Here's the link to that video. They start talking about chess at about the seven and a half minute mark:

http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/michael-richards-its-bubbly-time-jerry/

Doc_Detroit
joeschmo123 wrote:

To believe that this game was played by a 10 year old who has never had any training is nieve, The admins should take down this post. it seems like a whale story fit for a Disney movie. Either back this up with some concrete evidence, or quit wasting everyones time.

The miraculous save to the database is an especially nice touch. There won't be a dry eye in the house when this hits the theaters.

waffllemaster
trysts wrote:
bigpoison wrote:
naturalproduct wrote:

Waffle:

Correct. That and there is the English guy who can draw a perfect picture of Rome after a 1/2h helicopter tour. He just can't apply the gift to anything else. Memory of who played third base in the 1909 world series is nice, but Rainman (who passed away last year??) couldn't apply that memory towards a useful goal.

O'Leary played the hot corner for the Tigers.  Dunno who fielded the position for the Buccos.  Hell, I've only got the idiot part down.  Still workin' on that savant thing.

There is a video of Jerry Seinfeld and Michael Richards(Kramer) where they meet for coffee. Kramer talks about playing some homeless man in chess who beats him rather quickly. He asks a professional chess player about it, and the pro tells him that he played a savant. The pro said that no one can beat them but they don't play tournaments because of their unpredictable behaviour.

Here's the link to that video. They start talking about chess at about the seven and a half minute mark:

http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/michael-richards-its-bubbly-time-jerry/

Interesting.  I looked up Michael Richards in USCF.  Middle name with an A out of CA I don't see any.  I'm sure his story is embellished, but it fits right in here.

waffllemaster
Estragon wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

Interesting.  I looked up Michael Richards in USCF.  Middle name with an A out of CA I don't see any.  I'm sure his story is embellished, but it fits right in here.

 

It is a typical amateur story, as mentioned at Chessbase's coverage of the video.  He beat his friends, so they thought he was good.  He beat some old computer from the '80s (one in particular got a high rating on its first live test, and never submitted for another, they advertised as "2100" but weren't close to that, really), maybe one game out of 20 but that's what he remembers.

Then he runs into a street hustler, who won't keep playing him because he won't put up any money.  He thinks the hustler is a genius undiscovered by the world.

This is how myths begin.

Yeah, that sums it up well IMO.  People who talk about chess skill as a mysterious almost mystical thing reveal their ignorance pretty quickly... heh, a lot like the OP too.

ClavierCavalier

Wow, Houdini said that that game was 100% accurate?  What does it know, though?  It lost to a fictional character, after all.

Darn, I was gong to make a post that said "My nephew beat your NEPHEW?!?!"

Matthew11
SmyslovFan wrote:

If what you say is true, just have your nephew enter the state's scholastic championship, the K-12 section. He will win the tournament easily, become a Denker champion, and then earn a college scholarship, all in one year.

What? A scholarship from a scholastic championship? You can't be serious, I have beaten some of the placers for New York's two years ago with my own skill level at a mere 1500-1600. I never attended the tournament itself, but still, a scholarship??

ClavierCavalier
hessmaster wrote:
ClavierCavalier wrote:

Wow, Houdini said that that game was 100% accurate?  What does it know, though?  It lost to a fictional character, after all.

Darn, I was gong to make a post that said "My nephew beat your NEPHEW?!?!"

lol actually houdini says it was 101% accurate, which means it ws so accurate that houdini could not understand! the OP's nephew was utterly defeated by my nephew! he has forfeited the world championship match after this game, and my nephew is the world champion!

Your nephew isn't the world champion because, according to Fischer, Fischer is the world champion since no one won the title from him.  To become the WC, one must first defeat Fischer in a match, so I challenged him.  I sat alone at the table for 2 hours until the automatic forfeit for each game.  Since he didn't show up, I counted the match as a forfeit and that I automatically gained the title.  I've since realized that his forfeit didn't count in the 70's, so therefore it must not count now.  I don't think there is any winning against this guy...

grant_obama

well OP can you give us some evidence?

grant_obama

I guess the op cowered from  this thread. Last login: Feb 20th. today. still haven't bothered responding to anything yet, wow!

GenghisCant

Chess4001 wrote:

I guess the op cowered from  this thread. Last login: Feb 20th. today. still haven't bothered responding to anything yet, wow!

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More likely he lit the fuse and stood back.

Pat_Zerr
Estragon wrote:

It is a typical amateur story, as mentioned at Chessbase's coverage of the video.  He beat his friends, so they thought he was good.  He beat some old computer from the '80s (one in particular got a high rating on its first live test, and never submitted for another, they advertised as "2100" but weren't close to that, really), maybe one game out of 20 but that's what he remembers.

Then he runs into a street hustler, who won't keep playing him because he won't put up any money.  He thinks the hustler is a genius undiscovered by the world.

This is how myths begin.

Not only that, but celebrities often like to repeat urban legends as something that happened to them.  It makes them look interesting and keeps people talking about them.

Lucille Ball told Johnny Carson a probably apocryphal story of receiving Morse code transmissions from a Japanese spy on her fillings while driving down a street presumably in front of the spy's house.  Interestingly enough there's no FBI record of her contacting them and them apprehending the spy like she related in her story.  Not to mention the fact that RF signals are rarely picked up on tooth fillings.  I have a ham radio and fillings, and I've never noticed anything.

I'm guessing the analysis above is probably spot on, but there were some embellishments in the story.

eddysallin

    I think not.....

ClavierCavalier
N2UHC wrote:
Estragon wrote:

It is a typical amateur story, as mentioned at Chessbase's coverage of the video.  He beat his friends, so they thought he was good.  He beat some old computer from the '80s (one in particular got a high rating on its first live test, and never submitted for another, they advertised as "2100" but weren't close to that, really), maybe one game out of 20 but that's what he remembers.

Then he runs into a street hustler, who won't keep playing him because he won't put up any money.  He thinks the hustler is a genius undiscovered by the world.

This is how myths begin.

Not only that, but celebrities often like to repeat urban legends as something that happened to them.  It makes them look interesting and keeps people talking about them.

Lucille Ball told Johnny Carson a probably apocryphal story of receiving Morse code transmissions from a Japanese spy on her fillings while driving down a street presumably in front of the spy's house.  Interestingly enough there's no FBI record of her contacting them and them apprehending the spy like she related in her story.  Not to mention the fact that RF signals are rarely picked up on tooth fillings.  I have a ham radio and fillings, and I've never noticed anything.

I'm guessing the analysis above is probably spot on, but there were some embellishments in the story.

There was a Mythbusters about that.  Of course, the fact that they can't reproduce it doesn't mean it's fake, but there's a good chance of it.

quanghuynh

It's not truly Houdini. Full analysis with my Houdini 3, Black play with some blunder and White play like a centaur with none of blunder. And the match it fit over 40 move from high level database.

SmyslovFan
Matthew11 wrote:
 

What? A scholarship from a scholastic championship? You can't be serious, I have beaten some of the placers for New York's two years ago with my own skill level at a mere 1500-1600. I never attended the tournament itself, but still, a scholarship??

The winner of the Denker Tournament of Champions wins a scholarship to the University of Texas-Dallas. That's just the most famous of several chess scholarships available.

You may also want to check out the Samford Chess Fellowship. That's a chess fellowship in the US. The annual winner of the Samford Fellowship is given ~$42K to study chess professionally. Hikaru Nakamura is one relatively recent Samford winner.

helltank
hessmaster wrote:
 

!!! My nephew beat the OP's nephew!!! Houdini rated the game as 100% accurate with my nephew playing at 3300 strength. He is now famous and has a chessbase interview, and this game is going onto the chessbase big database!! YAY

My nephew beat YOUR nephew. 

Rasparovov
hessmaster wrote:
helltank wrote:
hessmaster wrote:
 

!!! My nephew beat the OP's nephew!!! Houdini rated the game as 100% accurate with my nephew playing at 3300 strength. He is now famous and has a chessbase interview, and this game is going onto the chessbase big database!! YAY

My nephew beat YOUR nephew. 

My other nephew beat YOUR nephew.

My nephew's nephew beat YOUR nephew.